Proving magnitude of impulse on either spheres

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The discussion focuses on deriving the magnitude of impulse on two colliding spheres using conservation of momentum and the coefficient of restitution. The impulse is expressed as ½m(1+e)(V-u), where V and u are the initial velocities of the spheres and e is the coefficient of restitution. Participants clarify the definitions of variables, with V1 and u1 representing the velocities after the collision. The challenge lies in substituting the correct expressions for the post-collision velocities to eliminate unknowns. Ultimately, solving the equations allows for the calculation of impulse magnitude.
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Homework Statement


A sphere of mass m is moving with a speed V along a horizontal straight line. It collides with an identical sphere of mass m moving along the same straight line with speed u (u<V). Show that the magnitude of impulse on either sphere is
½m(1+e)(V-u), where e is the coefficient of restitution between the two spheres.

Homework Equations


m1u1 +m2u2 = m1v1 +m2v2
V2-V1/ u1-u2= e

The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated impulse on sphere with velocity V. I =m(V1-V). Using coefficient of restitution, I get I = m(u1-e(V-u)-V). Using equation formed from conservation of momentum, I get I =m[u-V1- e(V-u)]. I have trouble getting rid of the u and V1 terms. How do I go about this?
 
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Your notation is confusing. How are V1 and so on related to the V and u given in the problem statement?
 
mfb said:
Your notation is confusing. How are V1 and so on related to the V and u given in the problem statement?
V1 and u1 are the velocities after collision.
 
What are V2 and u2 then?
 
mfb said:
What are V2 and u2 then?
Oh, that's just the general formula.
 
toforfiltum said:
V1 and u1 are the velocities after collision.
I think you mean those are the velocities of the first ball, after and before collision respectively. In the context of the question, u2 = u, and u1 = V.
Your two 'relevant equations' have two unknowns, the two velocities after impact. Use them to express those velocities in terms of the given velocities and e.
 
haruspex said:
I think you mean those are the velocities of the first ball, after and before collision respectively. In the context of the question, u2 = u, and u1 = V.
Your two 'relevant equations' have two unknowns, the two velocities after impact. Use them to express those velocities in terms of the given velocities and e.
Okay, to be clear, I define V and u as the initial speeds of the balls, and V1 and u1 as the speeds after collision.
So, since impulse is the same for both balls but in opposite direction, I form an equation m(V1- V) = -m(u1-u). Therefore I get m(V1 + u1) =m(V =u). However, coefficient of restitution gives me u1-v1 = e(V-u), and the u1-V1 term is not the same as in the first equation, so I can't make a complete substitution. How do I go from here?
 
You can solve the last equation for u1 and plug it into the first one. That allows to solve for V1 which is the last unknown in the system. Then you can calculate the magnitude of impulse.
 
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