Proving Midpts of Quadrilateral Make Parallelogram: Position Vectors

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The discussion focuses on proving that the midpoints of a quadrilateral's sides form a parallelogram using position vectors. Participants clarify that the origin can be placed at any point, such as point A, simplifying calculations by setting its position vector to zero. They discuss the formula for the position vector of midpoints and how to express the relationship between points Q and P in terms of their position vectors. Key to proving the parallelogram is understanding that opposite sides must be parallel and equal in length. The conversation concludes with a participant expressing understanding of the concepts discussed.
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While proving the Midpoints of the Sides of a Quadrilateral Form a Parallelogram , I got bogged down with position vectors.

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Let a,b,c and d be the position vectors of A,B,C and D. But where is the origin? Aren't we supposed to locate position of origin?
 
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Let a,b,c and d be the position vectors of A,B,C and D. But where is the origin? Aren't we supposed to locate position of origin?

You can put the origin wherever you like. I might put it at point ##A##.
 
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If we take origin at A, position vector of A that is given to be a will be 0,0 . Right?
 
As PeroK said, you can put the origin at any point as per your convenience.
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While proving the Midpoints of the Sides of a Quadrilateral Form a Parallelogram ,
This problem can be solved using simple properties of triangle.
 
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If we take origin at A, position vector of A that is given to be a will be 0,0 . Right?

I'd say the position vector of ##A## in that case is ##\vec{0}##. This may simplify the problem.
 
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I want to use the following formula for position vector of mid point
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For that I need origin other than point A.
 
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I want to use the following formula for position vector of mid point
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For that I need origin other than point A.

That's the right formula, but it's even simpler with ##\vec{OA} = \vec{0}##.
 
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If we take ##\vec{OA}## = ##\vec{0}##
The formula will be reduced to
##\vec{OM}## = ##\frac{OB}{2}##
(I meant position vector of OB , I don't know how to get vector sign on top of OB)
 
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If we take ##\vec{OA}## = ##\vec{0}##
The formula will be reduced to
##\vec{OM}## = ##\frac{OB}{2}##
(I meant position vector of OB , I don't know how to get vector sign on top of OB)

Okay, that gives you the position vector of point ##P##.

Have you thought yet about what you need to do to show that ##PQRS## is a parallelogram?
 
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In the book it's given
PQ= position vector of Q - position vector of P
How so? Is there any particular standard formula for this that I am missing?
 
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gracy said:
In the book it's given
PQ= position vector of Q - position vector of P
How so? Is there any particular standard formula for this that I am missing?

It's not a formula. But, what defines a parallelogram?
 
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PeroK said:
what defines a parallelogram?
A Parallelogram has opposite sides parallel and equal in length.
 
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gracy said:
Parallelogram has opposite sides parallel.

Good. Think a bit more about what you need to do to show this.

gracy said:
In the book it's given
PQ= position vector of Q - position vector of P
How so? Is there any particular standard formula for this that I am missing?

You can get from the origin to point ##Q## in two ways:

##\vec{OQ}##

Or:

##\vec{OP} + \vec{PQ}##

Therefore:

##\vec{OQ} = \vec{OP} + \vec{PQ}##
 
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