Pspice inverting opamp input resistance

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The discussion revolves around determining the input and output resistance of an inverting operational amplifier using Pspice, specifically focusing on the Pspice student version 9.1. Participants explore methods for finding these resistances, including examining circuit models and running simulations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a straightforward method to find input and output resistance in Pspice.
  • Another participant suggests that the input impedance is simply the resistor Ri, while the output impedance is zero, although this may not directly address the specifics of the opamp in question.
  • A clarification is made regarding the specific input resistance Rin of the opamp.
  • There is a mention of finding resistance values in the output file, with a request for guidance on how to do this.
  • One participant proposes using the OrCAD Model Editor to access the opamp model and suggests that it may be possible to derive input resistance from the subcircuit provided.
  • Another approach suggested involves running a simulation to calculate input resistance by dividing input voltage by input current.

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Participants express various methods for determining input and output resistance, but there is no consensus on a single approach or solution. Multiple competing views and techniques remain in the discussion.

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Some limitations include potential dependencies on specific circuit configurations and the need for further clarification on the simulation methods discussed.

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I am working with Pspice student verison 9.1. Is there any simply way i can find out the input and output resistance in pspice?

400px-Simple_design_daisy_inv_ampl_1000.jpg

basiclly my opamp is same as this without Rg resistor

Thank you
 
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I don't use pspice, but you can look at the circuit and immediately see the input impedance is Ri and the output impedance is zero.
 
sorry.. i mean the Rin in opamp
 
someone said it can find in output file...could anyone tell me how can i do it?
 
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What you can do is open up the library with the OrCAD Model Editor (a separate program) and find the part. I found something like this.

Code:
*-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
* connections:   non-inverting input
*                |  inverting input
*                |  |  positive power supply
*                |  |  |  negative power supply
*                |  |  |  |  output
*                |  |  |  |  |
.subckt uA741    1 2 3 4 5
*
  c1   11 12 8.661E-12
  c2    6  7 30.00E-12
  dc    5 53 dx
  de   54  5 dx
  dlp  90 91 dx
  dln  92 90 dx
  dp    4  3 dx
  egnd 99  0 poly(2) (3,0) (4,0) 0 .5 .5
  fb    7 99 poly(5) vb vc ve vlp vln 0 10.61E6 -10E6 10E6 10E6 -10E6
  ga    6  0 11 12 188.5E-6
  gcm   0  6 10 99 5.961E-9
  iee  10  4 dc 15.16E-6
  hlim 90  0 vlim 1K
  q1   11  2 13 qx
  q2   12  1 14 qx
  r2    6  9 100.0E3
  rc1   3 11 5.305E3
  rc2   3 12 5.305E3
  re1  13 10 1.836E3
  re2  14 10 1.836E3
  ree  10 99 13.19E6
  ro1   8  5 50
  ro2   7 99 100
  rp    3  4 18.16E3
  vb    9  0 dc 0
  vc    3 53 dc 1
  ve   54  4 dc 1
  vlim  7  8 dc 0
  vlp  91  0 dc 40
  vln   0 92 dc 40
.model dx D(Is=800.0E-18 Rs=1)
.model qx NPN(Is=800.0E-18 Bf=93.75)
.ends

Using this model, it may be possible to draw out the subcircuit and solve for input resistance.

Alternatively, you could attempt to run a simulation and divide input voltage by input current.
 

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