Pulley problem with frictionless ropes

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a frictionless pulley and massless ropes, where two masses, m1 (10.0 kg) and m2 (29.5 kg), need to be analyzed for acceleration and tension. Participants suggest using free body diagrams to derive equations for each mass, emphasizing the importance of correctly defining tension and weight. There is a focus on ensuring that the direction of acceleration is accounted for in the equations, as it affects the results. One participant points out an error in the equations presented, indicating that a misunderstanding of acceleration's direction could lead to incorrect calculations. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in problem setup to solve for the unknowns effectively.
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Homework Statement


In the diagram, the pulley is frictionless and the ropes are massless. You are given that m1 = 10.0 kg and m2 = 29.5 kg.

Calculate the acceleration of m2 downwards.

What is the magnitude of the tension in the string?

Homework Equations



sum of F= M*A

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried doing a free body diagram and solving for A but I still can't find the tension...
 
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You should post a picture of the pulley layout to make the problem clear.
 
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OK, you have written Newton's Law. Draw a free body diagram of each weight calling the tension in the rope T. You should have two equations. Let's see them.
 
m2:

force of tension going up
force of gravity going down

t1-w=ma

m1: same thing ...
t1-w=ma
 
Let's use some subscripts because the masses/weights are different:

T - w1 = m1 * a

T - w2 = m2 * a

Looking at what you've written, you'll need to define what w1 and w2 are. Also, you have a single variable for acceleration. But the accelerations are in opposite directions so what must be done?
 
So I have w1 and w2 and I have m1 and m2. Whats missing is T and A. Can I just solve for A or T ?
 
Taz. said:
So I have w1 and w2 and I have m1 and m2. Whats missing is T and A. Can I just solve for A or T ?

Yes you can but if you do you'll get an incorrect result. You have an error in one of your equations. Acceleration, like 'g', has a direction associated with it.
 
Signing off for today.
 

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