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Homework Statement



What are the possible results and their probabilities for a system with l=1 in the angular momentum state u = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(1 1 0)? What is the expectation value?
((1 1 0) is a vertical matrix but I can't see how to format that)

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L_{z} = \hbar(1,0,-1) for l=1 where (1,0,-1) represents the block diagonal... again, not sure how to do matrices on here :rolleyes:

By saying L_{z}u = \lambda u and just comparing I have results for lambda of +1, 0, -1.

I know probability is the modulus of <a|u> squared where a is a corresponding eigenvector... but I'm getting a bit lost somehow. Normally I'm ok with these, but this time I'm just not sure on what to do next.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated :smile:
 
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duckie said:

Homework Statement



What are the possible results and their probabilities for a system with l=1 in the angular momentum state u = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}(1 1 0)? What is the expectation value?
((1 1 0) is a vertical matrix but I can't see how to format that)

I assume you are asked the possible outcomes and their probabilities for a measurement of L_z? You haven't actually said which observable your measuring in this problem statement.

There are several environments you can use to display matrices and column vector in \LaTeX (see my sig). To see how to generate the following image, just click on it.

u=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}


L_{z} = \hbar(1,0,-1) for l=1 where (1,0,-1) represents the block diagonal... again, not sure how to do matrices on here :rolleyes:

Again, click on the following image:

L_z=\hbar\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\ 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1\end{pmatrix}

By saying L_{z}u = \lambda u and just comparing I have results for lambda of +1, 0, -1.

Shouldn't your eigenvalues have units of angular momentum ?:wink:

I know probability is the modulus of <a|u> squared where a is a corresponding eigenvector... but I'm getting a bit lost somehow. Normally I'm ok with these, but this time I'm just not sure on what to do next.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated :smile:

Well, what are the eigenvectors |a\rangle of L_z?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
I assume you are asked the possible outcomes and their probabilities for a measurement of L_z? You haven't actually said which observable your measuring in this problem statement.
Urgh sorry, yes I meant for a measurement of L_z... Late night :frown:

gabbagabbahey said:
Shouldn't your eigenvalues have units of angular momentum ?:wink:
And yes, I meant 0, \pm\hbar.


gabbagabbahey said:
Well, what are the eigenvectors |a\rangle of L_z?

Right, I think they're \begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=\hbar, \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=0, and \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=-\hbar.

Are those right?
 
duckie said:
Right, I think they're \begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=\hbar, \frac{1}{\sqrt{3}}\begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 1 \\ 1\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=0, and \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=-\hbar.

Are those right?

I'd choose \begin{pmatrix}0 \\ 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix} for \lambda=0, so that your eigenvectors are an orthonormal set.

What does that make the probability of measuring zero for L_z? How about \hbar? And -\hbar?
 
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