Quadratic Residue and Quadratic Reciprocity Law QRL

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of quadratic residues and the quadratic reciprocity law (QRL), specifically examining the conditions under which \( p-6 \) is a quadratic residue modulo \( p \) for certain values of \( p \) modulo 24. Participants are attempting to construct a table to analyze these relationships using Legendre symbols and Euler's criterion.

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  • Participants discuss creating a table to evaluate \( (p-6/p) \) using Legendre symbols for specific values of \( p \) modulo 24. Questions arise about the inclusion and calculation of the QRL column, as well as the implications of Euler's criterion in this context. Some participants express confusion about the relationship between the various components of the table and how they contribute to determining whether \( p-6 \) is a quadratic residue.

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There is ongoing exploration of the table structure and the calculations involved. Some participants have suggested using Euler's criterion and the reciprocity law to derive values, while others are seeking clarification on specific examples and the reasoning behind certain calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to understand the underlying principles without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement
Show that p-6 is a quadratic residue modulo p if p \equiv 1,5,7,11 (mod 24)
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(p-6/p)=(-1/p)(2/p)(3/p)

Make a table, so at the head row you have p(mod24), (-1/p), (2/p), QRL+-, (p/3) and finally (p-6/p), with in the head column below p (mod 24): 1,5,7,11
 
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How do we make the table to show that p-6 is a quadratic residue modulo p if p \equiv 1,5,7,11 (mod 24)?
 
I suggest using Euler's criterion to calculate the values of the Legendre symbols. So you get the following structure:

p mod 24:​
1​
5​
7​
11​
(-1/p):​
(2/p):​
(3/p):​

Then multiply the three values. This gives you ##(-6/p).## Why is that equal to ##(p-6/p)##?

E.g., if ##p\equiv 7 \pmod{24}## then ##\dfrac{p-1}{2}\equiv 3\pmod{24}## and ##(-1/p)=(-1)^3=-1.##
 
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fresh_42 said:
I suggest using Euler's criterion to calculate the values of the Legendre symbols. So you get the following structure:

p mod 24:​
1​
5​
7​
11​
(-1/p):​
(2/p):​
(3/p):​

Then multiply the three values. This gives you ##(-6/p).## Why is that equal to ##(p-6/p)##?

E.g., if ##p\equiv 7 \pmod{24}## then ##\dfrac{p-1}{2}\equiv 3\pmod{24}## and ##(-1/p)=(-1)^3=-1.##
Thank you for your reply!
In our table we must also use QRL+- in between (2/p) and (3/p). I understand how to fill the rest of the table with 1 and -1, but not this QRL+- column and how it determines the final result of (p-6/p).

p mod 24:​
(-1/p)​
(2/p)​
QRL+-​
(3/p)​
(p-6 / p)
1​
1​
1​
?​
1​
5​
1​
-1​
?​
-1​
7-11?1
11​
-1​
-1
?​
-1​
 
I didn't quite understand this either since a) Euler's criterion is based on QRL (IIRC), b) we already used it in the equations ##(p-6/p)=(-6/p)## and ##(a/p)\cdot (b/p) = (ab/p).## Maybe they simply meant the resulting product of the other three.

Edit: Or you should actually solve ##p-6=x^2 \pmod{p}## for ##x## in that row.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I didn't quite understand this either since a) Euler's criterion is based on QRL (IIRC), b) we already used it in the equations ##(p-6/p)=(-6/p)## and ##(a/p)\cdot (b/p) = (ab/p).## Maybe they simply meant the resulting product of the other three.

Edit: Or you should actually solve ##p-6=x^2 \pmod{p}## for ##x## in that row.
I'm still a bit confused, could you please give me an example from the table?
 
Lexaila said:
I'm still a bit confused, could you please give me an example from the table?
E.g. I get for ##p\equiv 5\pmod{24}## with
$$
\left(\dfrac{p-6}{p}\right)\equiv \left(\dfrac{-6}{p}\right)=\left(\dfrac{-1}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)
$$
from your table, that ##\left(\dfrac{p-6}{p}\right)=1.## I would simply write a plus in the column QRL (and a minus in cases where the result is ##-1.##

I thought we could determine a value for which ##p-6\equiv x^2\pmod{p}## but I confused ##\pmod{p}## with ##\pmod{24}.## For the example above we would get for ##p=53## that ##p-6=47\equiv 10^2\pmod{53}## and for ##p=101## that ##p-6=95=14^2\pmod{101}.## We have in both cases ##x=2p-6## and ##p-6\equiv x^2\pmod{p}.## I don't know if this is a pattern or just luck. My practice on QRL applications is a bit rusty. You are the one who has the book.
 
Not sure what table they want, but you need to use the reciprocity law. It says that
##\left(\dfrac{-1}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}##,
##\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}##,
##\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}##
then
##\left(\dfrac{-1}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)##.
 
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martinbn said:
Not sure what table they want, but you need to use the reciprocity law. It says that
##\left(\dfrac{-1}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}##,
##\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}##,
##\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}##
then
##\left(\dfrac{-1}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)##.
Thank you, it solves that question!

But if I have a different example, such as ( (p+3)/2 /p) = (2/p)(3/p) and when I try to use
##\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}##,
##\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}##
for, for example, p (mod24) with p=23, I get ##(-1)^{\frac{23^2-1}8}=1## and ##\left(\dfrac{23}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{23-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}=(-1)*(-1)*(-1)=-1##, so we get ##1*-1=-1##, while it should be 1. Could you please tell me where I'm going wrong?
 
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Lexaila said:
Thank you, it solves that question!

But if I have a different example, such as ( (p+3)/2 /p) = (2/p)(3/p) and when I try to use
##\left(\dfrac{2}{p}\right)=(-1)^{\frac{p^2-1}8}##,
##\left(\dfrac{3}{p}\right)=\left(\dfrac{p}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}##
for, for example, p (mod24) with p=23, I get ##(-1)^{\frac{23^2-1}8}=1## and ##\left(\dfrac{23}{3}\right)(-1)^{\frac{23-1}2}(-1)^{\frac{3-1}2}=(-1)*(-1)*(-1)=-1##, so we get ##1*-1=-1##, while it should be 1. Could you please tell me where I'm going wrong?
It seems you forgot the ##(-1)^{\frac{p-1}2}=(-1)^{\frac{23-1}2}=-1##
 

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