Question about double shear pin connections

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In discussions about double shear pin connections, the importance of using resultant forces rather than individual component forces for shear calculations is emphasized. The shear force at the pin must account for both horizontal and vertical reaction components, as the pin experiences a combined effect rather than distinguishing between them. The example provided illustrates that the resultant force at the pin can be calculated using vector resolution, confirming that the magnitude of the resultant should be used for accurate shear force determination. The conversation highlights that understanding the relationship between component forces and resultant forces is crucial for solving these types of problems. Overall, the key takeaway is that the pin's response is based on the resultant shear force, not the individual components.
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Homework Statement



Double Shear Pin Connection

Homework Equations



∑Fx = -2V + P = 0

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When calculating the shear force along the planes of the pin, where I have a reaction at Ax and Ay, why do I have to use the magnitude of the reaction force as opposed to the axial force that is acting colinear to the shear plane?

For example, if I have a horizontal reaction of 34.64 kN and a vertical reaction of 20 kN, why am I wrong for using 34.64 kN, instead of √34.642 + 202, to determine my shear forces?

Wouldn't the magnitude of the force have to be projected along the same shear plane thus returning me to my original horizontal reaction?
 
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I'm having a hard time visualizing what you are asking. Can you provide a sketch?
 
SteamKing said:
I'm having a hard time visualizing what you are asking. Can you provide a sketch?

Sure.

Pin A is the one I'm talking about.

For some reason the solutions manual uses the magnitude of the vertical and horizontal reaction but I can't see why since that would not be along the surface of the shear plane that I'm looking at.
 

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The shear experienced by the pin is the resultant of the axial and vertical components of the reaction at pin A. The pin can't distinguish a separate horizontal force and vertical force; component forces are mathematical conveniences used to solve problems.

Just like forces can be decomposed into different components, stresses can as well, by using techniques like the Mohr's circle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohr's_circle

Once you have the basic stress components, you can use Mohr's circle to find the normal stress and the shear stress components for an arbitrary stress plane.
 
Bill Nye Tho said:
Sure.

Pin A is the one I'm talking about.

For some reason the solutions manual uses the magnitude of the vertical and horizontal reaction but I can't see why since that would not be along the surface of the shear plane that I'm looking at.
Well Bill, you seem to have no problem at all in correctly calculating the shear force and stress at the pin at C, using the 40 kN link force which is directed 30 degrees below the horizontal. Did you know that the 40 kN force can be resolved into its vector components as 40 sin 30 = 20 kN in the y direction and 40 cos 30 = 34.6 kN in the x direction? Which is precisely the same as the x and y force components at A. That is, the resultant of the force components at A is sq rt (34.64^2 + 20^2) = 40 kN directed 30 degrees above the horizontal. Same magnitude as at C. That is why you must use the 40 kN force when calculating shear forces on the pin at A. As SteamKing has pointed out, the pin doesn't much care about component shear forces, only resultant shear force.
 
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