Question about taking the difference between two square root expression

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Ramakrishna's paper presents an approximation method for the difference of two square root expressions, specifically in equation (9) on page 5. The discussion focuses on the application of the first-order Taylor Series expansion to derive the approximation, emphasizing the small size of the term vΔt. Participants note that the presence of the 1/4 in the first square root may be a typographical error, as it complicates the derivation unnecessarily. The correct approach should simplify the expression without the division by 4, aligning with the geometric interpretation using Pythagorean principles. Overall, the approximation appears valid, but clarification on the 1/4 term is needed.
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In Ramakrishna's paper, http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1111/1111.1922.pdf , he derived equation (9), page 5.

It is a difference of two square-roots using an approximation method. Can anyone help in how this is done?

Thanks
 
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Lets see - the equation would have been:

<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\left ( <br /> \frac{D}{2}-v\Delta t<br /> \right )^2<br /> } - \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2+\frac{D^2}{4}<br /> } \approx -\frac{1}{2}\frac{v \delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}}}<br />

The text says this is "to first order in v\Delta t" ... which means he took the Taylor Series to first order, putting x=v\Delta t about x=0.

Taking the LHS for f(x), the 1st order Taylor approx is:

f(x) \approx f(0) + x{f^\prime}(0)

He just rewrote the delta-tee to emphasize it's small size.

I havn't actually crunched the numbers but it looks about the right shape - the deriverative gets you the -1/2 and pulls the vδt outside the root - putting the root itself in the denominator.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Lets see - the equation would have been:

<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\left ( <br /> \frac{D}{2}-v\Delta t<br /> \right )^2<br /> } - \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{<br /> H^2+\frac{D^2}{4}<br /> } \approx -\frac{1}{2}\frac{v \delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}}}<br />

The text says this is "to first order in v\Delta t" ... which means he took the Taylor Series to first order, putting x=v\Delta t about x=0.

Taking the LHS for f(x), the 1st order Taylor approx is:

f(x) \approx f(0) + x{f^\prime}(0)

He just rewrote the delta-tee to emphasize it's small size.

I havn't actually crunched the numbers but it looks about the right shape - the deriverative gets you the -1/2 and pulls the vδt outside the root - putting the root itself in the denominator.

Thanks, I appreciate.
 
I suspect that 1/4 in the first square root is not supposed to be there.
If you leave it off, then the zeroth order term vanishes at x=0 and

f^\prime (v\Delta t) = \frac{1}{c}\frac{1}{2}\left [ H^2 + \left ( \frac{D}{2} -v\Delta t \right )^2 \right ]^{-1/2} 2 \left ( \frac{D}{2} -v\Delta t \right ) (-1)

(Leaving it messy to show the working.) So the first order term, (v\delta t) f^\prime(0), comes out as shown.

Otherwise you end up with:

<br /> f(v\delta t) \approx <br /> <br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\frac{D^2}{4}} -<br /> \frac{1}{c}\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{D^2}{4}} -<br /> <br /> \frac{1}{8}\frac{v\delta t}{c}\frac{D}{\sqrt{H^2 + \frac{1}{4}\frac{D^2}{4}}}<br /> <br />

I have not found any reason for the division by 4 in the equation for PDsat-B(B:2) since it should just be the distance from B to the satellite (in position 2) by Pythagoras.
 
Indeed, the 1/4 in the PDsat-b(B:2) term is a typo error.

Thanks again
 
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