Series Homework Question: Divergent or Convergent? Methods Compared

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving the ratio test and a disagreement between the individuals on whether it is convergent or divergent. The speaker also mentions checking their work and assuming a potential error in the limit portion. However, it is ultimately shown that the problem is convergent. The speaker is then advised to find an explicit formula for the sum and take the limit as N approaches infinity.
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I was watching a PatrickJMT video on ratio test and he gave this problem. I solved it before he did, and he got that it was divergent. He didn't simplify it initially, so our methods of approach are different. Did I do something wrong? I checked my calculator to make sure all my simplifications were correct. So I'm assuming I did something near the limit portion that was incorrect (if at all). Thanks


∑ n/31+3n
n=1

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∑ n/31+3n = n/(3⋅27n)
n=1

lim |(n+1)/(3⋅27n+1) / (n/3 *27n)|
n→∞

= lim |(n+1)/n| * (1/27)
n→∞
= 1 * 1/27
=1/27 < 1

Convergent by Ratio Test
 
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Did you use the ratio test correctly?
 
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Math_QED said:
Did you use the ratio test correctly?
Nope. Got it, thanks.

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Actually I typed my work incorrectly. I'll fix it. but to be sure...
 
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Of Mike and Men said:

Homework Statement


I was watching a PatrickJMT video on ratio test and he gave this problem. I solved it before he did, and he got that it was divergent. He didn't simplify it initially, so our methods of approach are different. Did I do something wrong? I checked my calculator to make sure all my simplifications were correct. So I'm assuming I did something near the limit portion that was incorrect (if at all). Thanks


∑ n/31+3n
n=1

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



∑ n/31+3n = n/(3⋅27n)
n=1

lim |(n+1)/(3⋅27n+1) / (n/3 *27n)|
n→∞

= lim |(n+1)/n| * (1/27)
n→∞
= 1 * 1/27
=1/27 < 1

Convergent by Ratio Test

It is convergent, as you have shown correctly using the ratio test.

You can actually find the sum ##\sum_{n=1}^N n/3^{3n+1}## explicitly (as a reasonably simple closed-from expression in ##N##), then take the limit as ##N \to \infty##. All you need to do is find a formula for ##f_N(x) =\sum_{n=1}^N n x^n##, and these are widely available, or you can work it out as ##f_N(x) = x (d/dx) g_N(x)##, where ##g_N(x) = \sum_{n=1}^N x^n##, which is elementary.
 
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