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The discussion centers on finding the sum \(\sum^{n-1}_{r=1} u_r\) given that \(\sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r = 3n^2 + 4n\). It is established that \(\sum^{n-1}_{r=1} u_r = 3n^2 + 4n - u_n\), leading to the conclusion that \(\sum^{n-1}_{r=1} u_r\) simplifies to \(3n^2 - 2n - 1\) after substituting \(n\) with \(n-1\) and expanding. Participants also discuss deriving the general term \(u_r = 6r + 1\) through intuitive methods and basic summation formulas. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the steps in the derivation process for clarity. Overall, the thread provides insights into summation techniques and algebraic manipulation.
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If \sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r =3n^2 +4n, what is \sum^{n-1}_{r=1}u_r ?

I know that \sum^{n-1}_{r=1}u_r is equals to \sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r =3n^2 +4n - u_n but the answer given is 3n^2-2n-1. How do i express it in that way?

thanks alot.
 
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Use this

\sum_{r=1}^{n} r =\frac{n(n+1)}{2}

Daniel.
 
misogynisticfeminist said:
If \sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r =3n^2 +4n, what is \sum^{n-1}_{r=1}u_r ?

I know that \sum^{n-1}_{r=1}u_r is equals to \sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r =3n^2 +4n - u_n but the answer given is 3n^2-2n-1. How do i express it in that way?

thanks alot.
Substitute n with n-1:

\sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r =3n^2 +4n
becomes
\sum^{n-1}_{r=1} u_r =3(n-1)^2 +4(n-1)<br /> =3(n^2 -2n +1) +4(n -1)<br /> =3n^2 -2n -1
 
Heh,again,thank god someone came with a more intuitive method...:smile:

I would have found the general term u_{r}=6r+1 ...

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Use this

\sum_{r=1}^{n} r =\frac{n(n+1)}{2}

Daniel.

hey thanks daniel. I've used that to find out that sum^{n}_{r=1} u_r is an arithmetic progression with difference 6 and first term 7. So, i went on from there to find out the answer.

to whkoh: i don't understand your second step, \sum^{n-1}_{r=1} u_r =3(n-1)^2 +4(n-1)<br /> =3(n^2 -2n +1) +4(n -1)<br /> =3n^2 -2n -1.

would you mind explaining it to me? thanks alot.
 
The second step is expanding out so that it becomes
3(n-1)^2+4(n-1)<br /> =3(n^2 -2n+1)+4n-4<br /> =3n^2 -6n+4n+3-4<br /> =3n^2 -2n-1<br />
 
I don't understand how you find the general term U_r?
 
6 \sum_{r=1}^{n} r =6\frac{n(n+1)}{2}=3n^{2}+3n (1)

U have 3n^{2}+4n,so you need another "n"...That can be gotten noticing that

\sum_{r=1}^{n} 1 = n (2)

Add (1) & (2) and u'll get

\sum_{r=1}^{n} \left(6r+1\right) = 3n^{2}+4n (3)

The conclusion is simple.U found the general term,so for a summation till n-1 simply subtract the general term from the sum till n...

Daniel.

P.S.Your method is simpler,mine is due to intuition only.
 
ahhh thanks alot. I finally understood..
 
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