Question regarding the Pressure of a gas flowing from a cylinder into balloons

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The discussion revolves around the physics of gas flow from a cylinder into balloons, using the equation P1V1=P2V2 to determine the volume of gas transferred. The calculated volume of gas that can flow into the balloons is 5.41x10^6 cm^3, leading to the conclusion that 741 balloons can be filled. The participants debate whether any gas remains in the tank after filling the balloons, with the consensus being that it depends on the final pressure in the cylinder. It is noted that gas will stop flowing once the pressure inside the cylinder reaches 1.85x10^5 Pa. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the relationship between pressure, volume, and the number of balloons filled.
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Homework Statement
A gas cylinder contains 4.00x10^4 cm^3 of hydrogen at a pressure of 2.50x10^7 Pa and a temperature of 290 K. The cylinder is to be used to fill balloons. Each balloon, when filled, contains 7.24x10^3 cm^3 of hydrogen at a pressure of 1.85x10^5 Pa and a temperature of 290 K.
Calculate the number of balloons that can be filled.
Below is the solution but I can't seem to understand it.
Relevant Equations
PV=nRT, P1V1=P2V2
P1V1=P2V2
(2.5x10^7x4x10^4)/1.85x10^5 , V2 = 5.41x10^6 cm^3
5.41x10^6=4x10^4+7.24x10^3 N
N= 741
 
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Welcome to PF!

The rules here at the forum require that you show some work of your own. To get some discussion going, let me ask the following:

After the last balloon has been filled, is there any gas remaining in the tank?
 
TSny said:
Welcome to PF!

The rules here at the forum require that you show some work of your own. To get some discussion going, let me ask the following:

After the last balloon has been filled, is there any gas remaining in the tank?
There might be, as gas takes up the volume of the container. It wasn't mentioned in the question tho.
 
zee123 said:
There might be, as gas takes up the volume of the container. It wasn't mentioned in the question tho.
The question intends for you to deduce from physics principles whether or not there will be any gas remaining in the tank.
 
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TSny said:
The question intends for you to deduce from physics principles whether or not there will be any gas remaining in the tank.
But how much gas will flow into the balloons, will the gas stop flowing once the pressure inside the cylinder is 1.85x10^5 Pa?
 
zee123 said:
But how much gas will flow into the balloons, will the gas stop flowing once the pressure inside the cylinder is 1.85x10^5 Pa?
Yes. Good.
 
zee123 said:
But how much gas will flow into the balloons, will the gas stop flowing once the pressure inside the cylinder is 1.85x10^5 Pa?
The original mass of compressed hydrogen (high pressure) is shared by n-number of ballons plus the same cylinder at a lower common pressure.
Because of that you have:

Initial conditions inside cylinder = Final conditions inside cylinder + [Number of balloons x Final conditions inside each balloon]

$$P_{ci}V_{ci}=nP_bV_b+P_{cf}V_{cf}$$
where ##V_{ci}=V_{cf}##, since the cylinder has solid walls and constant volume.

Then,
$$n= \frac{V_c(P_{ci}-P_{cf})}{P_bV_b}=741~balloons$$
 
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