Question relating to Kirchhoff's law

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The discussion focuses on solving a circuit problem using Kirchhoff's laws to determine the currents through resistors R1 and R2. The user initially set up the equations correctly based on the junction and loop rules but struggled with the signs and directions of the currents. There is confusion regarding the flow of current I1, with suggestions to clarify its path through the circuit. The importance of correctly identifying the direction of currents and ensuring that magnitudes are expressed as positive values is emphasized. The user seeks assistance in resolving the discrepancies in their calculations.
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Homework Statement


Determine the magnitudes of the currents through R1 and R2 in (Figure 1) , assuming that each battery has an internal resistance r = 1.2 Ω .
Express your answers using two significant figures separated by commas.

Homework Equations


Junction rule: I3 = I1 + I2 (any current going into one junction must come out with the same amount)
loop rule: The sum of all the potential differences around a complete loop is equal to zero.

The Attempt at a Solution


Please refer to the image I attached.
First I set up the directions for current flow. I got the equations:

I3 = I1 + I2.
For the top loop, I got -18*I2 - 22*I1 +9V = 0.

For the bottom loop, I got 6V + 18*I2 = 0. I isolated I2 to get -6/18 = -0.33333.

Then I plugged in I2(-0.33333) into the top loop's equation to isolate I1. I got I1 = 0.6818.

However, the masteringphysics keeps telling me it's wrong. Can anyone help me with this?

*I've randomly tried changing up the signs of the two numbers, which didn't work so I don't know where I went wrong.
 

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So where are I1, I2, and I3, and in what direction? I'd suggest dropping I3 as you only need 2 (and you don't use it anyway)
 
phinds said:
So where are I1, I2, and I3, and in what direction? I'd suggest dropping I3 as you only need 2 (and you don't use it anyway)
Yes haha I dropped the first equation basically since I3 wasnt needed. I1 i drew to point towards the left from the top loop. As for I2, I drew it pointing towards the right on the middle segment. I3 I drew it point towards the right from the battery on the bottom loop.
 

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So how did you work the magic of making I1 not flow through the middle resistor?
 
phinds said:
So how did you work the magic of making I1 not flow through the middle resistor?
Sorry, not too sure what you mean. I included 18*I2 for the first loop. Is that not the current going through resistor in the middle?
 
johnknee said:
Sorry, not too sure what you mean. I included 18*I2 for the first loop. Is that not the current going through resistor in the middle?
Draw a full loop current in each loop. Where do you think I1 goes when it hits the node? Does it just evaporate?
 
The problem asks for the current magnitudes. Magnitudes are never negative.
 
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