Questions about double and triple integrals

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The discussion revolves around understanding double and triple integrals, particularly focusing on the concepts of symmetry in integrals, the properties of even and odd functions, and the challenges of setting limits of integration for specific geometric regions, such as a tetrahedron in the first octant.

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Main Points Raised

  • Maurice expresses confusion about when the integral from a to b can be simplified to twice the integral from 0 to a or when it becomes zero, particularly in the context of symmetry.
  • One participant explains that for even functions, the integral from -a to a equals twice the integral from 0 to a, while for odd functions, the integral from -a to a equals zero.
  • Maurice seeks clarification on the definitions of even and odd functions, questioning how areas can "cancel out" when one region is negative and equal to another.
  • Maurice describes a specific problem involving the triple integral of y^2 over a tetrahedron and expresses uncertainty about how to determine the limits of integration for this region.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of symmetry in integrals or the specifics of setting limits for the triple integral problem. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the definitions of even and odd functions, nor have they clarified the conditions under which areas cancel out in integrals. Additionally, the method for determining limits of integration for the tetrahedron remains unresolved.

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Hey,
I was just going through my vector calc textbook for this year and everything was going well until I reached double and triple integrals. My problem is the whole symmetry thing; when does (forgive me, I can't figure out the symbols) the integral from a to b become twice the integral from 0 to a versus becoming zero?
Other than that, I think I was doing fine, but if you guys wouldn't mind posting some double and triple integral questions for me so I could get some practice that would be great.
Thanks,
Maurice
 
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Much the same thing as you saw with single integrals: if f(x) is an even function, then \int_{-a}^a f(x)dx= 2\int_0^a f(x)dx and if f(x) is an odd function, then \int_{-a}^a f(x)dx= 0. More generally, if f(x,y,z) is exactly the same in two regions, then the integral over the two is just twice the integral over one:I+ I= 2I. If f(x,y,z) is the same in two regions, except that one is the negative of the other, they cancel and the integral is 0: I- I= 0.
 
That helps but there's a couple things: even fcn is where -f(x) = f(x) and odd fcn is where -f(x) = f(-x)? I just kind of forget, sorry. Also, what always bothered me about this is that, for example, if you have a fcn where it's graph is symmetrical with one region negative but equal to the other, how does the area "cancel out"?
 
I think another problem I'm having is interpreting the integrals. For example, there's a problem I'm looking at in the textbook, where it asks us to calculate the triple integral of y^2 of, and this is the hard part for me, the tetrahedron in the first octant bounded by the coordinate planes and the plane 2x+3y+z=6. I have no idea how to choose my limits of integration, i.e. integrate from what to what?

If somebody can explain how to choose these, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again,
Maurice
 

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