Questions dealing with the Second Law of Motion

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The discussion revolves around the application of Newton's Second Law of Motion, particularly in the context of weight calculations and forces experienced in an elevator scenario. Participants are exploring how to determine weight from mass and the implications of constant speed on forces acting on a person in an elevator.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of weight using the formula F=mg, questioning the correct interpretation of mass and weight. There is also an exploration of the effects of constant speed on the forces measured by a scale in an elevator, with some participants expressing confusion about acceleration and force.

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There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, with some participants providing clarifications and others questioning their understanding of the concepts involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of units and the relationship between mass, weight, and forces in the context of the problems presented.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework problems, which may limit the information available for discussion. There is a noted confusion regarding units and the distinction between speed and acceleration in the context of the elevator problem.

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I have a couple homework problems that are causing me some trouble...

1. The weight of 600g of salami is:
a) 0.061 N
b) 5.9 N
c) 61 N
d) 5.9 kN

I found the answer to be a) 0.061N because F=mg so m=F/g which is
0.6kg/9.8m/sec.squared. The answer is actually b) 5.9 N but I can not figure out how the got this answer. Any insights to this?

Also...

2. A 60-kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. How many Newtons does the scale read when a) it is ascending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec.squared? b) it is desending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec. squared?

I am not sure how to find this out. On one hand, I think that I need to find the acceleration at these speeds. Yet I do not think that there is any acceleration when the speed is constant. Am I sort of on the right track here?

Thanks for your help!
 
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for 1 isn't w = mg which give you .6kg *9.8 = 5.88 founded up to 5.9
for 2 what i think is this not sure if you have the answers to checkif it is correct f = ma f= 60 * 9.8 + and - 3 m/s just a guess not sure
 
Hi there Mistaken and welcome to PF.

miss_taken19 said:
I have a couple homework problems that are causing me some trouble...

Well, you have definatly come to the right place.

miss_taken19 said:
1. The weight of 600g of salami is:
a) 0.061 N
b) 5.9 N
c) 61 N
d) 5.9 kN

I found the answer to be a) 0.061N because F=mg so m=F/g which is
0.6kg/9.8m/sec.squared. The answer is actually b) 5.9 N but I can not figure out how the got this answer. Any insights to this?

I think you are getting a lttle confused here. Is 600g a force or a mass? Is weight a mass or a force?

miss_taken19 said:
2. A 60-kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. How many Newtons does the scale read when a) it is ascending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec.squared? b) it is desending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec. squared?

I am not sure how to find this out. On one hand, I think that I need to find the acceleration at these speeds. Yet I do not think that there is any acceleration when the speed is constant. Am I sort of on the right track here?

Again, I think you getting a little confused here, you are not given any speeds; you are given accelerations, note the untis m.s-2. The scale in the lift actually measures the reaction force exerted by the lift on the perons. I think it would be helpful here if you drew a free body diagram. A good thread which previously described the mechanics is located https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=120110".

Think about summing the forces acting; \sum F = m\vec{a}.

~H
 
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Thanks for the help with the first one. It make a lot more sense now. I actually wrote the wrong units down for the second problem. The elevator is ascending and desending at 3.0 m/s not 3.0 m/sec. squared. So is there any force occurring here? I don't think so because there's no change in the velocities which means there is no acceleration. Am I right?
 
miss_taken19 said:
Thanks for the help with the first one. It make a lot more sense now. I actually wrote the wrong units down for the second problem. The elevator is ascending and desending at 3.0 m/s not 3.0 m/sec. squared. So is there any force occurring here? I don't think so because there's no change in the velocities which means there is no acceleration. Am I right?

Spot on, so does the person's weight change?

~H
 
No, I don't think so.Their weight in Newtons would still be 588N (60kg * 9.8m/s. squared) since no other force is acting on their bodies except for the force due to gravity.
 
miss_taken19 said:
No, I don't think so.Their weight in Newtons would still be 588N (60kg * 9.8m/s. squared) since no other force is acting on their bodies except for the force due to gravity.

Spot on :smile:
 
Yes! Thanks for you help :)
 
miss_taken19 said:
Yes! Thanks for you help :)

My pleasure.
 

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