Questions dealing with the Second Law of Motion

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The discussion revolves around two homework problems related to the Second Law of Motion. For the first problem, the correct weight of 600g of salami is identified as 5.9 N, calculated using the formula F=mg, where m is the mass in kilograms and g is the acceleration due to gravity. In the second problem, a 60-kg person in an elevator experiences no change in weight when ascending or descending at a constant speed of 3.0 m/s, as there is no acceleration involved. Participants clarify that the scale measures the normal force, which remains equal to the person's weight of 588 N during constant motion. The conversation emphasizes understanding the distinction between mass, weight, and the effects of acceleration on forces.
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I have a couple homework problems that are causing me some trouble...

1. The weight of 600g of salami is:
a) 0.061 N
b) 5.9 N
c) 61 N
d) 5.9 kN

I found the answer to be a) 0.061N because F=mg so m=F/g which is
0.6kg/9.8m/sec.squared. The answer is actually b) 5.9 N but I can not figure out how the got this answer. Any insights to this?

Also...

2. A 60-kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. How many Newtons does the scale read when a) it is ascending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec.squared? b) it is desending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec. squared?

I am not sure how to find this out. On one hand, I think that I need to find the acceleration at these speeds. Yet I do not think that there is any acceleration when the speed is constant. Am I sort of on the right track here?

Thanks for your help!
 
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for 1 isn't w = mg which give you .6kg *9.8 = 5.88 founded up to 5.9
for 2 what i think is this not sure if you have the answers to checkif it is correct f = ma f= 60 * 9.8 + and - 3 m/s just a guess not sure
 
Hi there Mistaken and welcome to PF.

miss_taken19 said:
I have a couple homework problems that are causing me some trouble...

Well, you have definatly come to the right place.

miss_taken19 said:
1. The weight of 600g of salami is:
a) 0.061 N
b) 5.9 N
c) 61 N
d) 5.9 kN

I found the answer to be a) 0.061N because F=mg so m=F/g which is
0.6kg/9.8m/sec.squared. The answer is actually b) 5.9 N but I can not figure out how the got this answer. Any insights to this?

I think you are getting a lttle confused here. Is 600g a force or a mass? Is weight a mass or a force?

miss_taken19 said:
2. A 60-kg person stands on a scale in an elevator. How many Newtons does the scale read when a) it is ascending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec.squared? b) it is desending at the constant speed of 3.0 m/sec. squared?

I am not sure how to find this out. On one hand, I think that I need to find the acceleration at these speeds. Yet I do not think that there is any acceleration when the speed is constant. Am I sort of on the right track here?

Again, I think you getting a little confused here, you are not given any speeds; you are given accelerations, note the untis m.s-2. The scale in the lift actually measures the reaction force exerted by the lift on the perons. I think it would be helpful here if you drew a free body diagram. A good thread which previously described the mechanics is located https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=120110".

Think about summing the forces acting; \sum F = m\vec{a}.

~H
 
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Thanks for the help with the first one. It make a lot more sense now. I actually wrote the wrong units down for the second problem. The elevator is ascending and desending at 3.0 m/s not 3.0 m/sec. squared. So is there any force occurring here? I don't think so because there's no change in the velocities which means there is no acceleration. Am I right?
 
miss_taken19 said:
Thanks for the help with the first one. It make a lot more sense now. I actually wrote the wrong units down for the second problem. The elevator is ascending and desending at 3.0 m/s not 3.0 m/sec. squared. So is there any force occurring here? I don't think so because there's no change in the velocities which means there is no acceleration. Am I right?

Spot on, so does the person's weight change?

~H
 
No, I don't think so.Their weight in Newtons would still be 588N (60kg * 9.8m/s. squared) since no other force is acting on their bodies except for the force due to gravity.
 
miss_taken19 said:
No, I don't think so.Their weight in Newtons would still be 588N (60kg * 9.8m/s. squared) since no other force is acting on their bodies except for the force due to gravity.

Spot on :smile:
 
Yes! Thanks for you help :)
 
miss_taken19 said:
Yes! Thanks for you help :)

My pleasure.
 
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