Quick question about constant of motion

In summary, the constant of motion for this system is defined as ##J = m r^2 \sin^2 \theta \dot{\phi}^2 ## and it represents the orbital angular momentum in the ##\theta = 0 ## direction. This is calculated by taking the cross product of the position vector and the linear momentum vector, which can be simplified to ##J = m r^2 \sin^2(\theta) \dot{\phi} ## in polar coordinates. The cross product works similarly in polar coordinates as it does in rectangular coordinates.
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I have found that ##J = m r^2 \sin^2 \theta \dot{\phi}^2 ## is a constant of motion. How is this orbital angular momentum in the ##\theta = 0 ## direction? It is a particle moving in a central force field.
 
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Shouldn't that be [itex] J = m r^2 \sin^2(\theta) \dot{\phi} [/itex] ? I guess you should try to compare this to the "usual" definition, which is [itex] \mathbf{J} = \mathbf{r} \times \mathbf{p} [/itex]
 
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I can't work that out i can't do a cross product in polar coordinates.

## J = r p \sin (\theta) ##

## p = m r \dot{\phi} \sin (\theta) ## ?

## J = m r^2 \sin^2(\theta) \dot{\phi} ##
 
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The cross product works exactly like with the usual rectangular coordinates. If you want to make it more straightforward, take the absolute value so you don't have to worry about sign conventions. If you are really worried, you can also transform back to rectangular coordinates but that's a ton of unneeded work.
 
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Hi Gregg! :smile:
Gregg said:
I have found that ##J = m r^2 \sin^2 \theta \dot{\phi}^2 ## is a constant of motion. How is this orbital angular momentum in the ##\theta = 0 ## direction?

If you draw a "horizontal" circle, it has radius rsinθ, and the component of velocity parallel to the circle is φ'rsinθ :wink:
 

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What is a constant of motion?

A constant of motion is a quantity that remains unchanged over time in a physical system. It is a fundamental concept in classical mechanics and is used to describe the behavior of systems such as particles, fluids, and gases.

Why is the concept of constant of motion important?

The concept of constant of motion is important because it helps us understand and predict the behavior of physical systems. It allows us to identify quantities that will remain unchanged, even as other variables may change. This helps us make accurate predictions and analyze the dynamics of systems.

What are some examples of constants of motion?

Examples of constants of motion include energy, momentum, angular momentum, and electric charge. In classical mechanics, these quantities remain constant as long as the system is isolated and not acted upon by external forces.

How do constants of motion relate to symmetries?

Constants of motion are closely related to symmetries in physical systems. In fact, Noether's theorem states that for every continuous symmetry in a system, there is a corresponding constant of motion. This connection between symmetries and constants of motion is a fundamental principle in physics.

Can a constant of motion change?

In classical mechanics, a constant of motion remains unchanged as long as the system is isolated and not acted upon by external forces. However, in some systems, such as quantum systems, constants of motion may change due to quantum effects. In general, a constant of motion can change if there is a violation of the conditions that keep it constant.

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