Quick question regarding gauss' law

In summary, the conversation discusses the characteristics of a long coaxial cable, including the inner cylindrical conductor, outer cylindrical shell, and insulating supports. The inner cylinder has a uniform positive charge per unit length, while the outer shell has no net charge. The calculation of E is discussed for points between the cylinders and outside the shell, as well as finding the charge per unit length on the inner and outer surfaces of the shell. There is a disagreement on the accuracy of the calculation for E at any point between the cylinders, with one person mentioning the importance of the Gaussian surface and the inclusion of epsilon 0 in S.I. units. Additionally, there is uncertainty regarding the value of E outside the shell, with one person suggesting it may be
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A long coaxial cable consists of an inner cylindrical conductor with radius [tex]a[/tex] and an outer cylindrical shell of inner radius [tex]b[/tex] and outer radius [tex]c[/tex]. The cylindrical shell is mounted on insulating supports and has no net charge. The inner cylinder has a uniform positive charge per unit length [tex]\lambda[/tex].

Calculate [tex]E[/tex]
a) at any point between the cylinders
b) at any point outside the cylindrical shell
c) Find the charge per unit length on the inner surface and outer surface of the shell.

a) wasn't a problem, found [tex]E = \frac{\lambda}{2\pi rh}[/tex]
b) and c) I'm having problems with

would [tex]E[/tex] outside the shell be 0 since the insulating shell carries no charge?
 
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You answer to a is wrong for one simple reason (among others), it is dependant on the Gaussian Surface you chose, when it shouldn't be. The total charge, q is not lambda, but lambda times the height of your Gaussian surface (think about the units, lambda is in C/m, you need to multiply by a distance to get C). Also there should be an epsilon 0 in there if you are working in S.I. units.

Claude.
 
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For part b), you are correct that the electric field outside the cylindrical shell would be 0. This is because Gauss' law states that the total electric flux through a closed surface is equal to the enclosed charge divided by the permittivity of free space. Since there is no net charge within the cylindrical shell, the electric flux through any closed surface outside the shell would be 0, resulting in an electric field of 0.

For part c), we can use Gauss' law again to find the charge per unit length on the inner and outer surfaces of the cylindrical shell. We can imagine a Gaussian surface in the shape of a cylinder with radius r, centered between the inner and outer surfaces of the cylindrical shell. The enclosed charge within this surface would be the charge per unit length on the inner and outer surfaces multiplied by the length of the cylinder, which is 2\pi rh.

Using Gauss' law, we can equate the electric flux through this surface to the enclosed charge divided by the permittivity of free space. This would give us the following equations:

For the inner surface:
\frac{Q_{inner}}{\epsilon_0} = \frac{\lambda_{inner} \cdot 2\pi rh}{\epsilon_0} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{A} = E \cdot 2\pi rh

Solving for \lambda_{inner}, we get:
\lambda_{inner} = \frac{E}{2\pi r}

Similarly, for the outer surface:
\frac{Q_{outer}}{\epsilon_0} = \frac{\lambda_{outer} \cdot 2\pi rh}{\epsilon_0} = \oint \vec{E} \cdot d\vec{A} = E \cdot 2\pi rh

Solving for \lambda_{outer}, we get:
\lambda_{outer} = \frac{E}{2\pi r}

Therefore, the charge per unit length on both the inner and outer surfaces of the cylindrical shell would be equal to the electric field at that point divided by 2\pi r. Since the electric field outside the shell is 0, the charge per unit length on the outer surface would also be 0. On the other hand, the charge per unit length on the inner surface would be equal to the electric field at that point divided by 2\pi r.

I hope this helps clarify
 

What is Gauss' Law?

Gauss' Law is a fundamental law in electromagnetism that relates the electric flux through a closed surface to the charge enclosed by that surface.

How is Gauss' Law used in physics?

Gauss' Law is used to calculate the electric field produced by a charge distribution, and to determine the electric field due to a continuous charge distribution by using the concept of electric flux.

What is the equation for Gauss' Law?

The equation for Gauss' Law is ΦE = Qenc / ε0, where ΦE is the electric flux, Qenc is the enclosed charge, and ε0 is the permittivity of free space.

What is the significance of Gauss' Law?

Gauss' Law is significant because it is one of the four Maxwell's equations that describe the behavior of electric and magnetic fields. It also allows us to easily calculate the electric field in situations with high symmetry.

What are the limitations of Gauss' Law?

Gauss' Law is limited to situations with high symmetry, and cannot be applied in cases where the electric field is changing over time. It also does not account for any magnetic effects.

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