Quick stress calculation with one force on an I-Beam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the state of stress at a specific point on an I-beam cross section, particularly focusing on bending stress and shear stress. Participants are addressing a homework problem involving the application of relevant equations and the interpretation of parameters related to the beam's geometry.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present the equation for stress, σ = My/I, and discuss the calculation of moment and the location of point A relative to the beam's centroid.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of "Y" and whether the calculated value of 90.71 is correct, with some participants questioning the relevance of the term "Ybar."
  • Participants suggest that the correct bending moment needs to be determined through support reactions and shear force diagrams, indicating that the initially calculated moment may not be appropriate.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the measurement of "y" from the centroid to point A, with some arguing that it should simply be the distance from the centroid to point A, rather than involving additional terms.
  • One participant confirms they have already calculated other stresses but seeks clarification on the process of finding the moment diagram and the subsequent calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating the bending stress and the interpretation of certain parameters. There is no consensus on the correct value of "Y" or the appropriate method for determining the bending moment, indicating ongoing disagreement and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the geometry of the beam and the definitions of terms like "Ybar" remain unclear. The discussion also highlights the need for further calculations related to support reactions and shear force diagrams, which are not fully resolved.

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Homework Statement


Determine the state of stress at point A on the cross section of the beam at section a−a. TakeP = 33kN .

Homework Equations


σ = My/I

The Attempt at a Solution


Moment = Fd = 33000N(500mm) = 165000000
Y = 90.71 (100-9.29, 9.29 being the Ybar of the little piece)
I = 22926666.67 (used on Part B and was correct)
 

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Bluestribute said:

Homework Statement


Determine the state of stress at point A on the cross section of the beam at section a−a. TakeP = 33kN .

Homework Equations


σ = My/I

The Attempt at a Solution


Moment = Fd = 33000N(500mm) = 165000000
Y = 90.71 (100-9.29, 9.29 being the Ybar of the little piece)
I = 22926666.67 (used on Part B and was correct)
It's not clear what the "little piece" means. In any event, the I-beam has two axes of symmetry, so the location of its centroid can be found by inspection.

The beam will have shear stress and bending stress created at section a-a. You should solve this beam to find the support reactions at the ends and use these reactions to create the shear force and bending moment diagrams. The value of the moment you have calculated is not the correct bending moment for this problem.

For calculating the shear stress at point A, you should show your calculation of the first moment Q of the area of the beam above point A.

Since this beam is 200 mm deep in total and point A is located 50 mm below the topmost fiber, y measured from the centroid of the beam can be found by simple subtraction.
 
I'm just looking for the normal here. My big question is did I calculate Y right (the beam has a height of 200, so it's center is at 100, 100-9.29 where the "A" Ybar is is how I got 90.71. And moment I did . . . as shown up above . . .
 
Bluestribute said:
I'm just looking for the normal here.
Are you looking only for the bending stress? The problem statement asks for the state of stress at point A.

My big question is did I calculate Y right (the beam has a height of 200, so it's center is at 100, 100-9.29 where the "A" Ybar is is how I got 90.71. And moment I did . . . as shown up above . . .

For σ = My / I, the y value is a simple measurement from the centroid of the beam to point A. It is not a y-bar.

Since the centroid of the entire beam is located 100 mm below the top fiber, and point A is located 50 mm below the top fiber, y is just the difference between these two distances. It's not clear what 9.29 represents, but it's not what you need to calculate the bending stress of this beam.

You should solve this beam to find the support reactions at the ends and use these reactions to create the shear force and bending moment diagrams. The value of the moment you have calculated is not the correct bending moment for this problem.
 
Yeah, I already have the other stress.

So I have to solve the moment diagram to find M, Y is just 50mm (where "A" is located), and then divide?
 
Bluestribute said:
Yeah, I already have the other stress.

So I have to solve the moment diagram to find M, Y is just 50mm (where "A" is located), and then divide?

Divide by I for the I-beam cross section to find σ, yes.
 

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