Radius from Radial Acceleration

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum length of a 90-degree circular highway curve for vehicles traveling at 60 mph, ensuring the centripetal force does not exceed one-tenth of the vehicle's weight. Participants explore the relationship between centripetal force and radius using the equations Fc = mv^2/r and MA = mv^2/r, emphasizing that mass cancels out in the calculations. There is confusion regarding the arc length and the need for SI unit conversions, with one participant estimating a curve length of 7.36 miles, which is questioned by others as being too long. The conversation highlights the challenges of applying physics concepts to practical problems, particularly for those less familiar with the subject. Overall, the thread illustrates the complexities of determining radius and curve length in highway design.
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An unbanked circular highway curve on level ground make a turn of 90 degree. The highway carries traffic at 60 mph, and the centripetal force on a vehicle is not to exceed 1/10 of its weight. What is the minimum length of the curve in miles?

I am working towards the arc contained within the angle theta which is 90 degrees. I have easily determined that of course, that arc is 25% of the circumference. I am trying then to find the radius. I have worked backwards here, fiddling with Ar=V^2/R as well as MA = mv^2/r. I am stuck though. Not really looking for the answer, just a shove in the right direction as that I would REALLY like to get this one on my own. I just don't have the physics brain.
 
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Youre on the right track. Fc < MG/10. R must be greater than something
 
With Fc being the centripetal force = Mass(Gravity)/10? Thats assuming a mass then, since I don't know it, right?
 
Right, but it will cancel out as you suspect
 
Because of the force of friction.. I seem to be getting more lost than I was now.
 
They ask for centripetal force, which is a sum of forces. You don't need to split it up any further. Like I said, mv^2/r < mg/10. Note the mass on both sides. No arc length, no friction, but make sure to convert to SI
 
Ah. Told you I have no capacity for physics. Or sleep these days.
 
I figure a curve (arc) length of no less than 7.36 miles based on my work. Wow. There is no way that is right. Thats a heckuva curve. (the problem calls for the old british system. I would rather work SI, trust me.)
 
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