Rate of rotation and inertia (prevent homicide and help me, please)

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A diver rotating at 1 revolution per second (1 Hz) experiences a change in rotation rate when her length is halved by tucking in. The discussion revolves around calculating the new rate of rotation using concepts of angular momentum and moment of inertia. The key formula presented is L = Iω, indicating that as the moment of inertia decreases, the angular velocity must increase to conserve angular momentum. Participants express frustration with online physics quizzes, noting their simplicity yet challenging nature. The consensus highlights the importance of understanding basic physics concepts rather than relying solely on quiz formats.
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i understand 4 of the 6 problems on this week's online physics quiz, but this one is driving me completely NUTS!

a diver rotates at 1 revolution per second in the stretched out position. when the diver tucks her head in and bends her legs, assume her length is shortened by 1/2. what is her rate of rotation in this position?
my choices are 4 Hz or 5 Hz, you'd think having only 2 choices would make this easier, but alas, i am dumbfounded.

i have tried thinking of the diver in the stretched out position as a rod, with rotational inertia 1/12ML^2
the other position would be like a solid sphere, with rotational inertia 2/5MR^2

1 revolution per second is 1 Hz, or 2pi r/s

the angular momentum (which may be irrelevant) of the stretched out position is
L= 1/12M(2r)^2 * 6.28 radians/1 revolution * 1 revolution/1second
this leaves me with L=2.093Mr^2 rad/sec

L of ball position is
2/5Mr^2 * 6.28 radians/?sec= 2.51Mr^2 radians/?sec
?=0.39Mr^2 rad/sec

slowly going insane, i see that rotational accleration = net torque/rotational inertia
this also leads me nowhere

any help, hints, or a slap across the face would be greatly appreciated

(p.s.- anyone else think online physics is the STUPIDEST idea EVER?)
 
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*Slaps NoHeart in the face*, "wake up man!"

Lol...just kidding. :-p

Keep in mind these quizzes never have super complex questions, they are always just testing the basic concepts. In this case, angular momentum, L, can be expressed as:

L = I\omega

Where I is the moment of inertia. Keep it simple, model the diver as having the same overall shape, whether she's fully extended or not. After all, they only give you length, l, to work with. So if:

I \propto l^2

then when l is halved, by what factor does I decrease? _________

But if I decreases by that factor, and by conservation of angular momentum, the product L = I\omega must remain constant, then by what factor does \omega increase to compensate?

Yes, I also feel that online physics quizzes are a stupid idea.
 
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