Ratio for Kindetic and Potential energy

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the ratio of kinetic energy to potential energy in a block-spring system undergoing simple harmonic motion (SHM). The original poster presents a mathematical approach to derive this ratio based on the system's phase angle and position function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the ratio of kinetic energy to potential energy at a specific time, using the equations for position and velocity in SHM. They express concern about their interpretation of the question after receiving feedback that their answer was marked wrong.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a supportive manner, with some affirming the original poster's understanding of the problem. There is a suggestion to consider expressing the answer in a different form, indicating that the discussion is focused on clarifying the presentation of the answer rather than the underlying calculations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a limitation of three attempts to submit their answer, which may influence their approach to rephrasing or reformulating their response.

Awer1
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
If the phase angle for a block-spring system in SHM is φ and the block's position is given by x = xm cos(ωt+φ), what is the ratio of the kinetic energy to the potential energy at time t = 0? State your answers in terms of the given variables.



x =xm Cos(wt + phi)
v = -w(xm)sin(wt +phi)
K = (1/2 mv2)
P = (1/2 m w2 x2)




dividing K/P = [v/wx]2
substitute v and x we get: [(-w(xm)sin(wt +phi)/(w)(xm Cos(wt + phi))]2
simplifying we get: [-wtan(wt + phi)/w]2 = [tan(wt + phi)]2
at t = 0 we should get the following: [v/wx]2 = [tan(phi)]2


The answer is marked wrong, am I interpreting the question incorrectly? I know what ratio is.. and ratio for Kinetic energy and Potential should be K/P right?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
you are absolutely right ! its odd that it is marked wrong .. maybe you should change the form of your answer? try different form maybe that will work ..
 
oh good I thought I was going crazy. I was only allowed three attempts. so I used three different formats that were all the same thing.. still marked wrong.
 
it happens, sometimes you have the right answer but i.e you have to express it in a certain form or in a certain sigificance .. :) anyway, don't worry you had the right answer ..
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K