Real analysis: inequality limitsuperior/inferior

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The discussion focuses on proving the inequality involving limit superior and limit inferior in the context of series convergence, specifically for the series \(\sum_{1}^{\infty} a_{n}\) where \(a_{n} \neq 0\). The key inequality established is \(\underline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}| \leq \underline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|}\leq \overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|)} \leq \overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}|\). The discussion highlights the use of proof by contradiction and logarithmic transformations to simplify the proof process. Ultimately, the participants successfully navigate through the complexities of limit superior and limit inferior concepts.

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Homework Statement



Consider [itex]\sum_{1}^{\infty} a_{n}, a_{n} \neq 0[/itex]

Show that

[itex]\underline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}| \leq \underline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|}\leq \overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|)} \leq \overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}|[/itex]





The Attempt at a Solution



I have just been thinking about the limit superior part of the inequality:

[itex]\overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|)} \leq \overline{\lim\limits_{n \rightarrow \infty}}|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}|[/itex]

Ok so I know that for all n
[itex]|\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_{n}}| \leq M[/itex]
and that for all n
[itex]\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|} \leq N[/itex]

The best way I can see to prove that [itex]N \leq M[/itex] is to do a proof by contradiction
so if N>M then for a sufficiently large p such that:
[itex]|\frac{a_{p+1}}{a_{p}}| \leq M \leq \sqrt[p]{|a_{p}|} \leq N[/itex]
I've spent a lot of time manipulating this equation, but I'm not getting to a contradiction.

Can anyone see a way to prove this or an alternative way to do the proof that works?

Another thing I tried was saying:
[itex]\sqrt[n]{|a_{n}|} \leq N[/itex]
So
[itex]a_{n} \leq N^{n}[/itex]
[itex]\sqrt[n+1]{|a_{n+1}|} \leq N[/itex]
So
[itex]a_{n+1} \leq N^{n+1}[/itex]

But I can't really do anything with that as far as I can see. Was just a thought.
 
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Hi K29! :smile:

Let's get you started, will we.

First, we will change that annoying limsup by a limit. Note in general that

[itex]\limsup{x_n}\leq \limsup{y_n}[/itex]

If for every subsequence [itex]x_(n_k)[/itex] that increases to the limsup, we have that

[tex]\lim{x_{n_k}}\leq \limsup{y_n}[/tex]

In general, we can take the [itex]x_n[/itex] to converge (maybe to infinity) and we can take them to be increasing. So we need to show that

[tex]\lim{\sqrt[n]{|a_n|}}\leq \limsup{\frac{|a_{n+1}|}{|a_n|}}[/tex]

Now, what if you take the logarithm of both sides?
 
Thanks for the help! Solved :)
 

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