Real Analysis convergence proof

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to the convergence of sequences in real analysis. Specifically, it examines the claim that if the sequence \(x_n\) converges to \(a\) and the sequence \(y_n\) converges to \(b\), then the difference \(x_n - y_n\) converges to \(a - b\).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of a proof involving the manipulation of limits and the triangle inequality. Questions arise regarding the justification for certain epsilon choices and the need to establish the convergence of \(-y_n\) to \(-b\).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the proof structure and highlighting areas that require further clarification. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the triangle inequality and the relationship between the sequences' convergence.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the proof attempts to establish a result that relies on the properties of converging sequences, but there are concerns about assumptions made in the proof process. The need for a more rigorous justification of certain steps is emphasized.

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Homework Statement


If the sequence xn ->a , and the sequence yn -> b , then xn - yn -> a - b



The Attempt at a Solution



Can someone check this proof? I'm aware you cannot subtract inequalities, but I tried to get around that where I indicated with the ** in the following proof. Does this make sense?

(for all epsilon > 0)(there exists a natural number K)(such that for all n > K) |(xn-yn) - (a-b)| < epsilon

|(xn - a) - (yn - b) | < epsilon
|(xn - a) + (-yn + b) | < epsilon **


choose 1.) |xn - a| < epsilon / 2
and 2.) |-yn + b| < epsilon / 2

1.) + 2.)

|(xn -a) + (-yn+b) | <= |xn - a| + |-yn +b| < epsilon

is this a valid proof?
 
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All seems good, however:
elimenohpee said:
and 2.) |-yn + b| < epsilon / 2

I think you still need to explain why you can choose an epsilon such that |yn+b|< epsilon/2.
It is indeed true that -yn converges to -b, but you still need to prove it! (even if it's trivial :biggrin:)
 
micromass said:
All seems good, however:


I think you still need to explain why you can choose an epsilon such that |yn+b|< epsilon/2.
It is indeed true that -yn converges to -b, but you still need to prove it! (even if it's trivial :biggrin:)

great, thanks! and point taken lol :D
 
elimenohpee said:
(for all epsilon > 0)(there exists a natural number K)(such that for all n > K) |(xn-yn) - (a-b)| < epsilon

|(xn - a) - (yn - b) | < epsilon
|(xn - a) + (-yn + b) | < epsilon **


choose 1.) |xn - a| < epsilon / 2
and 2.) |-yn + b| < epsilon / 2

1.) + 2.)

|(xn -a) + (-yn+b) | <= |xn - a| + |-yn +b| < epsilon

is this a valid proof?
This the sort of thing you write on scratch paper to figure out a strategy for the proof you will submit for grading. What you have here assumes what you want to prove. It's sort of the reverse of your final proof.

The crucial step here is |(xn -a) + (-yn+b) | ≤ |xn - a| + |-yn +b| the triangle inequality.
And of course: |xn - a| + |-yn + b| = |xn - a| + |yn - b| .

To go forward,
Let ε > 0 .

Then since xn converges there is some L that works for xn, a and ε/2

Similarly, there is some M that works for yn, b and ε/2​

Now, show how K is related to M & L to show that xn - yn converges to a - b .
 

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