Really complicated solve for x problem

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The discussion centers on a complex "solve for x" problem involving the equation f(x) = (x)×√(49-x²) + 49sin⁻¹(x/7), with the goal of finding x when f(x) = (49/6)π. Participants note that algebraic methods are insufficient for solving the equation, suggesting graphing as a viable alternative. Trigonometric substitution is considered, although its applicability outside of integration is questioned. The consensus is that simplifying the problem through substitution could be beneficial, despite the complexity involved. Ultimately, the problem is acknowledged as significantly more challenging than typical exam questions.
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really complicated "solve for x" problem.. please help..

Homework Statement


[This is the final step in a "critical thinking" problem assigned as extra practice/intense application] Find the value of x, for the given equation, when f(x) = \frac{49}{6}\pi


f(x) = \left(x\right)\times\sqrt{49-x^2} + 49sin^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{7}\right)



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(This is where I need help, I have tried moving around the values, sqaring both sides, applying e and ln; my T.A. could only think of plugging f(x) into a graphing calculator and tracing to y = \frac{49}{6}\pi)
*A big question I have is if trig-substitution (aside from integration) can be used, or another method I am not "equipped with," with simplifications.



The Attempt at a Solution


This is what is left after integrating a problem, the answer should be ~1.85 (from graphing/tracing). I tried simplifying using regular relationships:

sin^{-1}\left(\frac{x}{7}\right) = \frac{1}{6}\pi - \left(x\sqrt{49-x^2}\right)\div49
 
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You're not going to be able to solve this by algebraic means. The simplest approach is to graph the function and see what value of x gives a y value of 49pi/6.
 
Hi phys-lexic! :wink:

Try the obvious substitution. :smile:
 


I understand algebraic means won't help, which is why I'm posting this question.

Trig-substitution is what I was thinking, but is that applicable when not integrating? (We were only introduced to trig-substitutions with integrals, for obvious reasons)
 
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Trig-substitution is what I was thinking, but is that applicable when not integrating?

Yes! You can always substitute, if you think it will make the problem easier. :smile:
 


Would be a lot simpler if there was only a way to make that first term go to zero...
 


If f(x)=y, substitute Sqrt[a^2-x^2]=dy/dx, then it reduces to the standard form dy/dx +Py=Q
 


Aah.. I tried it out a few times and ended up going in circles. Thankyou anyways everyone, now I know why this question is "way harder than the exam would be."
 

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