Refraction Problem: Find Angles with Triangles

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The discussion revolves around solving a refraction problem using triangles and Snell's Law. Participants express difficulty in finding angles due to limited information, specifically only having one side of the triangles. The conversation highlights the relationship between angles in air and liquid, emphasizing the need to calculate height (h) to determine the angles accurately. Corrections are made regarding the formulas used for calculating angles above and below the liquid surface. Overall, the exchange leads to a clearer understanding of how to approach the problem using the provided equations and relationships.
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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


Basically, I tried to use triangles to find the angles. But I don't know how as it seems I'm only given one side of the triangles.
 
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khoais said:

Homework Statement



Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Basically, I tried to use triangles to find the angles. But I don't know how as it seems I'm only given one side of the triangles.

I think they want you to consider the effect of Snell's Law here.

\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_1}{Sin \theta_2}
 
LowlyPion said:
I think they want you to consider the effect of Snell's Law here.

\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_1}{Sin \theta_2}

You mean
\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_2}{Sin \theta_1}

So let's say n1 = n2 when the glass is empty because the angle of incident is equal to the angle of refraction. When the glass is full, n2 = 1.22 and everything else is unknown. So how would I go about finding just theta r, which is theta_1 in this case?
 
khoais said:
You mean
\frac{n_1}{n_2} = \frac {Sin \theta_2}{Sin \theta_1}

So let's say n1 = n2 when the glass is empty because the angle of incident is equal to the angle of refraction. When the glass is full, n2 = 1.22 and everything else is unknown. So how would I go about finding just theta r, which is theta_1 in this case?

Yes. Sorry for the hurried typo.

With respect to the problem you know the angle of sight over the top is h/(h2 + d2)1/2

And the angle it makes in the liquid is h/(h2 + d2/4)1/2

And you know they are related by the 1.22 then don't you?

You know D so solve for h. Having h in hand then you can figure the angle directly.
 
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LowlyPion said:
Yes. Sorry for the hurried typo.

With respect to the problem you know the angle of sight over the top is h/(h2 + d2)1/2

And the angle it makes in the liquid is h/(h2 + d2/4)1/2

And you know they are related by the 1.22 then don't you?

You know D so solve for h. Having h in hand then you can figure the angle directly.

Thanks a lot lowlypion.

I had a little trouble figuring out why your values didn't work, but in the end I found that the values were actually:

d/(d2 + h2)1/2 for the top angle

and

(d/2)/(d2/4 + h2)1/2 for the liquid angle.

All in all though, you greatly helped me. Thank you so much!
 
khoais said:
Thanks a lot lowlypion.

I had a little trouble figuring out why your values didn't work, but in the end I found that the values were actually:

d/(d2 + h2)1/2 for the top angle

and

(d/2)/(d2/4 + h2)1/2 for the liquid angle.

All in all though, you greatly helped me. Thank you so much!

My apologies. I relied on the Hyperphysics link that shows the angle with the surface rather than with the normal.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/geoopt/refr.html#c3

snell2.gif
 
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