Regular Values (Introduction to Smooth Manifolds)

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Homework Statement


Consider the map [itex]\Phi[/itex] : ℝ4 [itex]\rightarrow[/itex] ℝ2

defined by [itex]\Phi[/itex] (x,y,s,t)=(x2+y, yx2+y2+s2+t2+y)

show that (0,1) is a regular value of [itex]\Phi[/itex] and that the level set [itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex] is diffeomorphic to S2 (unit sphere)

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The Attempt at a Solution



So I have the Jacobian

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [2x 2y 0 0; 2x 2y+1 2s 2t]

the reduced row echelon form of D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is a rank 2 matrix which implies that F is a smooth submersion.

So I guess I'm a little confused on the definition: Let M and N be smooth manifolds

If F:M→N is smooth and let p [itex]\in[/itex] M, then p is a regular point if D[itex]\Phi[/itex] at p is onto.

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is a rank 2 matrix which implies that D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is onto right?

Another question that I have is that the pre-image of (0,1) under [itex]\Phi[/itex] is a subset of ℝ4 any hints on the diffeomorphism part?
 
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BrainHurts said:

Homework Statement


Consider the map [itex]\Phi[/itex] : ℝ4 [itex]\rightarrow[/itex] ℝ2

defined by [itex]\Phi[/itex] (x,y,s,t)=(x2+y, yx2+y2+s2+t2+y)

show that (0,1) is a regular value of [itex]\Phi[/itex] and that the level set [itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex] is diffeomorphic to S2 (unit sphere)

Homework Equations






The Attempt at a Solution



So I have the Jacobian

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [2x 2y 0 0; 2x 2y+1 2s 2t]

I don't get the same Jacobian

the reduced row echelon form of D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is a rank 2 matrix which implies that F is a smooth submersion.

But ##D\Phi## is not a matrix at all. You should evaluate it in different points. You should ask for which ##(x,y,s,t)## that ##D\Phi_{(x,y,s,t)}## is surjective. This is not true for all ##(x,y,s,t)##. For example ##(0,0,0,0)##.

So I guess I'm a little confused on the definition: Let M and N be smooth manifolds

If F:M→N is smooth and let p [itex]\in[/itex] M, then p is a regular point if D[itex]\Phi[/itex] at p is onto.

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is a rank 2 matrix which implies that D[itex]\Phi[/itex] is onto right?

Another question that I have is that the pre-image of (0,1) under [itex]\Phi[/itex] is a subset of ℝ4 any hints on the diffeomorphism part?
 
Shoot!
[itex]\Phi[/itex](x,y,s,t) = (x2+y, x2+y2+s2+t2+y)

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [2x 1 0 0; 2x 2y+1 2s 2t]

How is D[itex]\Phi[/itex] not a matrix? I'm confused on that?

I'm going to switch notation up a bit

If we have a smooth map F: M → N and let p [itex]\in[/itex] M, then p is a regular point if

TpF is onto. In this case TpF is the total derivative which we used D[itex]\Phi[/itex].

TpF : TpM → TF(p)N

However I do see your point about D[itex]\Phi[/itex](0,0,0,0), we would have a rank 1 matrix in that case.
 
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BrainHurts said:
Shoot!

D[itex]\Phi[/itex] = [2x 1 0 0; 2x 2y+1 2s 2t]

I still don't agree.

How is D[itex]\Phi[/itex] not a matrix? I'm confused on that?

It's not a matrix in the sense that it depends on specific values of ##(x,y,s,t)##. If you're given specific values, then it is a matrix.

I'm going to switch notation up a bit

If we have a smooth map F: M → N and let p [itex]\in[/itex] M, then p is a regular point if

TpF is onto. In this case TpF is the total derivative which we used D[itex]\Phi[/itex].

TpF : TpM → TF(p)N

However I do see your point about D[itex]\Phi[/itex](0,0,0,0), we would have a rank 1 matrix in that case.

Can you classify all points such that ##D\Phi_{(x,y,s,t)}## is surjective?
 
sorry my equation was wrong
 
BrainHurts said:
sorry my equation was wrong

OK, I agree with the Jacobian now. But please don't edit any posts after you already received a reply. Just reply with the correct equation.

So, can you now figure out for which ##(x,y,s,t)## that your Jacobian has rank 2?
 
First sorry about that reply thing, I realized that once I made the edit, thought about re-editing so that I made my mistake, but then that's just too many re-edits, in any case I won't make that mistake again!

so the point (0,1), the pre-image of (0,1) under [itex]\Phi[/itex] is a subset of ℝ4

so we will look at the specific case:

(x2+y,x2+y2+s2+t2+y) = (0,1)

this means that

x2+y = 0

and that x2+y2+s2+t2+y = 1

this reduces the second component to

y2+s2+t2 = 1 (which is nice sine S2 : y2+s2+t2)

[itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex](0,1) = {(x,y,s,t)|(x2+y=0 and y2+s2+t2 = 1}

so for all (a,b,c,d) [itex]\in[/itex] [itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex](0,1)

we have D[itex]\Phi[/itex](a,-a2,c,d) is a rank 2 matrix

I think that's good now right?
 
BrainHurts said:
First sorry about that reply thing, I realized that once I made the edit, thought about re-editing so that I made my mistake, but then that's just too many re-edits, in any case I won't make that mistake again!

so the point (0,1), the pre-image of (0,1) under [itex]\Phi[/itex] is a subset of ℝ4

so we will look at the specific case:

(x2+y,x2+y2+s2+t2+y) = (0,1)

this means that

x2+y = 0

and that x2+y2+s2+t2+y = 1

this reduces the second component to

y2+s2+t2 = 1 (which is nice sine S2 : y2+s2+t2)

[itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex](0,1) = {(x,y,s,t)|(x2+y=0 and y2+s2+t2 = 1}

so for all (a,b,c,d) [itex]\in[/itex] [itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex](0,1)

we have D[itex]\Phi[/itex](a,-a2,c,d) is a rank 2 matrix

I think that's good now right?

If it's clear to you why ##D\Phi(a,-a^2,c,d)## has rank 2, then it's good.
 
for all p [itex]\in[/itex] [itex]\Phi^{-1}[/itex](0,1), p is a regular point, and it follows that (0,1) is a regular value. Thanks so much! That really helped a lot. I think I have the second part.
 

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