Relationship between Excess Pressure and Surface Tension for a Drop on a Fibre

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between excess pressure and surface tension for a drop on a fiber, specifically focusing on the application of the Young-Laplace equation to determine the radii of curvature involved in the calculation of excess pressure.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the correct radii of curvature, ##R_1## and ##R_2##, for the drop's geometry. There is uncertainty regarding the appropriate formulas to use for these radii, particularly in relation to the planes involved.

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Some participants are exploring the geometric considerations necessary for determining the radii of curvature, questioning the orientation of the planes and the implications for the center of curvature. There is an ongoing inquiry into the reasoning behind the placement of the center of curvature along the x-axis.

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Participants note the requirement for two radii of curvature that lie in planes at right angles to each other and to the tangent plane of the surface, indicating a complexity in visualizing the geometry involved.

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Homework Statement


Think of a drop of radius ##R## deposited on a fibre of radius ##b(b<<L)##.Find ##{\Delta{P}}##

Homework Equations


The relationship between excess pressure and the surface tension is given by Yong-Laplace equation,
$$\Delta{P} = \sigma{(\frac{1}{R_1}+\frac{1}{R_2})}$$

The Attempt at a Solution

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Here i can't figure out what will be ##R_1##and##R_2## .I know that the curvature of radius is defined as $$R=\frac{y''}{(1+y'^2)^\frac 3 2 }$$ if ##y'##is the derivative of y with respect to ##x##.But in the solution, they have used two different formula for ##R_1## and ##R_2##.
Can anyone help me understand these?
 

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Raihan amin said:

Homework Statement


Think of a drop of radius ##R## deposited on a fibre of radius ##b(b<<L)##.Find ##{\Delta{P}}##

Homework Equations


The relationship between excess pressure and the surface tension is given by Yong-Laplace equation,
$$\Delta{P} = \sigma{(\frac{1}{R_1}+\frac{1}{R_2})}$$

The Attempt at a Solution

[/B]
Here i can't figure out what will be ##R_1##and##R_2## .I know that the curvature of radius is defined as $$R=\frac{y''}{(1+y'^2)^\frac 3 2 }$$ if ##y'##is the derivative of y with respect to ##x##.But in the solution, they have used two different formula for ##R_1## and ##R_2##.
Can anyone help me understand these?
You need two radii of curvature lying in planes at right angles to each other and at right angles to the tangent plane of the surface.
The formula you quote is correct for the XY plane. The other plane is a bit tricky. A vertical slice gives a radius of y, but that plane is not at right angles to the tangent plane. To get the correct plane you have to tip it over at angle θ, as shown. The centre of curvature is still on the x-axis (is this obvious?) so the radius is y sec(θ).
 
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haruspex said:
The centre of curvature is still on the x-axis (is this obvious?) so the radius is y sec(θ).
Can you elaborate it,please ?
 
Raihan amin said:
Can you elaborate it,please ?
Are you asking for proof that the centre of curvature is still on the x axis? If not, what?
 
haruspex said:
Are you asking for proof that the centre of curvature is still on the x axis? If not, what?
Yes,i am asking for that
 
Raihan amin said:
Yes,i am asking for that
I can't think of a simple argument... looks reasonable but I need to think some more.
 

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