Relative Velocity of Particles a & b in Angular Motion

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Particles a and b move in opposite directions around a circle with angular speed ω, starting at the same point. The relative velocity of particle a with respect to particle b was calculated using the tangential unit vector and angular velocities. The derived expression for their relative velocity is 2lω cos(ωt) in the i direction. The discussion also clarified whether to find the relative velocity as a function of time or just at t = 0, with the conclusion that both approaches are valid. The final result for the initial relative velocity is 2lω in the i direction.
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Homework Statement



Particles ##a## and ##b## move in opposite directions around a circle with angular speed ##ω##. At ##t = 0## they are both at the point ##\vec{r} = l \hat{\jmath}## where ##l## the radius of the circle.

Find the velocity of ##a## relative to ##b##

Homework Equations



$$\hat{\theta} = -\hat{\imath} \sin{\theta} + \hat{\jmath} \cos{\theta}$$
$$\vec{v}_{a/b} = \vec{v}_{a/O} - \vec{v}_{b/O}$$
$$\theta = \theta_0 + \dot{\theta}t$$
$$\vec{v} = \dot{\theta} r \hat{\theta}$$

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I found the tangential unit vector as a function of time for each of the particles, setting the initial angle to ##\frac{\pi}{2}## for both ##a## and ##b##. Also, according to the diagram shown in the source, ##a## is moving clockwise (towards the ##\hat{\imath}## unit vector) and ##b## is moving anticlockwise; so I set ##\dot{\theta}## equal to ##\omega## for ##b## and ##-\omega## for ##a##.
I then found the tangential velocities of both ##a## and ##b##, setting ##r## equal to ##l## for both. After doing the math and cleaning up the vector components using trigonometric identities, I got:

$$\vec{v}_{a/b} = 2l\omega \cos{\omega t} \hat{\imath}$$

I have no answer booklet though, so I don't know whether that's correct. Did I get it right, or did I go wrong somewhere?
 
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Are you supposed to find their relative velocities as a function of time, or are you just supposed to find it at t = 0?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Are you supposed to find their relative velocities as a function of time, or are you just supposed to find it at t = 0?

Chet
Chestermiller said:
Are you supposed to find their relative velocities as a function of time, or are you just supposed to find it at t = 0?

Chet
Chestermiller said:
Are you supposed to find their relative velocities as a function of time, or are you just supposed to find it at t = 0?

Chet

I wasn't sure, so I figured writing the velocity of ##a## relative to ##b## as a function of time would be better, since I could just set ##t## equal to zero and get the initial relative velocity (##2l\omega \hat{\imath}##).
 
Nice job.

Chet
 
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