Relativistic Centre of Momentum Frame

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The discussion focuses on determining the speed of the center of momentum frame (S') for two colliding particles, where one particle moves at 0.546c and the other is at rest. It highlights the necessity of using special relativity to accurately calculate the velocities in the S' frame, as naive non-relativistic calculations yield incorrect results. The correct approach involves applying Einstein's velocity addition formulas, leading to the conclusion that the speed of S' relative to the inertial frame S is 0.297c. The discussion emphasizes that momentum conservation must be considered in the context of relativistic effects. Ultimately, the calculated value of v is confirmed as correct.
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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m ha speed 0.546c relative to inertial frame S. The particle collides with an identical particle at rest in the inertial frame S. Relative to S and in terms of c, what is the speed of S' in which the total momentum of these particles is 0.

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I can see that in the S' frame, Pa = - Pb so that means that Va = - Vb since both masses are equal. But I just can't get my head around why i need to use special relativity because everything is in reference to the S frame anyway.
 
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xoxomae said:
that means that Va = - Vb
That's correct, but it doesn't answer the question. They want you to tell them the value of Va. THe naïve non-relativistic answer is that it's half of 0.546c, ie 0.273c but that answer is wrong because it doesn't allow for the fact that, if you choose a frame that has velocity 0.273c relative to the first one, the velocities of the two particles will NOT be 0.273c and -0.273c respectively, because of the relativistic corrections.
 
Pa=-Pb and Va=-Vb are not in S.
 
S' frame is moving at a velocity v w.r.t S frame.
Let velocity of Particle 1 = U1 in S frame and particle 2 = U2 in S frame therefore Particle 1 = U1' and particle 2 = U2' in S' Frame
Since particle 2 is at rest in S frame, its velocity in S' frame is equal to the velocity of the S' frame relative to S i.e. v=u2'
So in a centre of momentum frame u2'= - u1' = v

Using Einstein velocity addition formulas and setting c to 1

u2' = ( u2 - v ) / (1-v/c) = v

When solved gives v = 0.297c

Does this seem right?
 
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