Relativity - Lorentz Transformation

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The discussion revolves around solving a relativity problem involving Lorentz transformations between two observers, A at a base station and B on a spacecraft moving at 0.8c. For the first question, the user calculates the time for the message to reach B and finds that B is 8 light-years away when the signal arrives. In the second question, the user struggles with determining the correct x' value for B when sending a message back to A, considering both x' = -vt' and x' = 0, ultimately leaning towards the latter as more appropriate. The final advice confirms that x' = 0 is correct for B's perspective, emphasizing the need to apply Lorentz transformations with the relative velocity for accurate calculations. The discussion highlights the complexities of applying relativistic equations correctly in different reference frames.
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Homework Statement


A is at the base station and given in K co-ordinates
B is on a spacecraft and given in K' co-ordinates.
The velocity of the spacecraft is v=0.8c

Question 1
After t = 2y (y = years) A sends a message by radio to B demanding a picture. Which time t' does B have when the signal arrives and what is B's distance x to the base station then?

Question 2
It took B t' = 1y time to take the picture and get the radio transmission on its
way. What time t is it for A and where (x) is the spacecraft when B launches
his message?

Question 3
What time t is it for A when the message from B arrives and where (x) is
B when this happens?


Homework Equations


\gamma = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}
so in this question \gamma = \frac{1}{0.6}

Lorentz's Transformations
t' = \gamma(t-\frac{vx}{c^{2}}),
x' = \gamma(x-vt),
t = \gamma(t'+\frac{vx'}{c^{2}}),
x = \gamma(x'+vt').



The Attempt at a Solution



For 1 I have done the following

x_{B}=vt,
x_{message}=c(t-2y)

So I need to find when these to meet i.e.
vt=c(t-2y)
which leads to
t=\frac{2y}{1-\frac{v}{c}} = \frac{2y}{1-0.8} = 10y
therefore
x_{B}=0.8c * 10y = 8Ly

then from the Lorentz t' equation I get 6y (just substituting values above in).


For 2 I have done the following

From 1 I saw that t' = 6y when B got the message therefore when B sends the message it must be 7y as tooks 1y to sort it.

Now I need to find t from this which is where I am stuck.

Obviously I use the t Lorentz equation however it is the entry for x' I am confused about.
As I am calculating t for A must I put in x'_{A} = -vt' or should I put in x' = 0 as the photo is at x' = 0.

I have calculated both ways and for x' = -vt' I got 4.2y and for x' = 0, I got 11.67.
The second seems more correct as it is greater then 10 the t found in part 1, but this is relativity so I am confused.

Once I have sorted this bit I am sure I can do part 3.

Any help on my problem would be much appreciated.
Thank You.
 
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Your instinct and reasoning that x' = 0 is correct. The primed coordinates have nothing to do with observer A; they are the coordinates B uses. You calculate for A by using the Lorentz transformations with the relative velocity of the two frames.
 
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