Resistors in Series Calculations including Uncertainties

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The discussion focuses on calculating the total resistance of three resistors in series, each with a resistance of 4.0 Ohms, 9.4 Ohms, and 4.0 Ohms, all having a 10% uncertainty. The total resistance is calculated as 17.4 Ohms, and the uncertainty is determined by adding the individual uncertainties of each resistor, resulting in a total uncertainty of 1.74 Ohms. Participants clarify that the 10% uncertainty means "plus or minus 10%," and the correct method for combining uncertainties involves using the square root of the sum of the squares of individual uncertainties. The final expression for total resistance, including uncertainty, is confirmed as 17.4 Ohms ± 1.74 Ohms. The conversation emphasizes understanding the method for future calculations rather than just obtaining the answer.
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Hey, this is my first post ever on PF, and I have done my best to follow the guidelines on posts asking for help with homework. Please know that I am not after the answer just to cheat and get the questions right, I am after the method so that I could do a similar question myself in the future.

Homework Statement



Three resistors in series are 4.0 Ohms, 9.4 Ohms and again 4 Ohms.
They all have a tolerance or uncertainty of 10%. What is the total resistance including uncertainties?

Homework Equations



Total resistance in series = R(1) + R(2) + R(3)

The Attempt at a Solution



The first part is easy, 4.0+9.4+4.0= 17.4

Now, I believe that when calculating uncertainty in this situation, you are meant to calculate the uncertainty for each resistor, and then add.

10% of 4 = 0.4
10% of 9.4 = .94
10 % of 4 = 0.4

Total uncertainty of all resistors combined = 1.74.

So am I correct in saying that the total resistance in series = 17.4 Ohms + or - 1.74 Ohms, correct? The thing I am worried about is whether it is +- 1.74, or half; 0.84.

Again, thanks for the help, and please let me know if I have broken any rules or how I can improve my post.

Thanks.
 
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if i remember correctly, when the quantities are added of sutracted,

the absolute error values (I mean the actually error values, not the percentages) are added together like calculating the hypotenuse of a triangle,

ie say your error values are x,y,z, the final error value should be:
sqrt(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)
 
Hmm. That's interesting. I will ask my teacher about the best approach in this situation. Thank you very much for your reply.
 
does the 10% uncertainty mean "plus or minus 5%" or does it mean "plus or minus 10%" ?

Seems to me it has to mean plus or minus 10%, so I believe your calculations are the right way to do it AND have the right answer.
 
The exact questions says: Three resistors are in series. They have values of 4.0 ohms, 9.4 ohms, and 4.0 ohms. All values have an uncertainty of 10%. What is the total resistance including uncertainties?

I believe that it means "plus or minus 10%", but I am not sure.

Thank you for your help.
 
Wukunlin is correct. The idea here is that the value of each resistor is a random variable, and when you sum them, you form a new random variable. The variance of the new random variable is the sum of the individual variances, where the variance is equal to the uncertainty squared.

An uncertainty of 10% means "plus or minus 10%".
 
phinds said:
does the 10% uncertainty mean "plus or minus 5%" or does it mean "plus or minus 10%" ?

Seems to me it has to mean plus or minus 10%, so I believe your calculations are the right way to do it AND have the right answer.

Tolerance in this case refers to the standard deviation in a normal distribution of the component values. Not the extreme values. You add standard deviation just like wukinlin said. It's a square root of the sum of the squares.
 
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