Review book for College Physics I and II

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for review books for College Physics I and II, particularly for a high school junior preparing to take these courses. The conversation touches on the prerequisites for learning physics, including the role of calculus and algebra, and the nature of the physics curriculum being algebra-based.

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  • One participant suggests that understanding calculus is essential for learning physics effectively, proposing books that integrate calculus with mechanics.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the course is strictly algebra-based, indicating that calculus will not be used significantly.
  • Some participants argue that while calculus is not necessary for algebra-based physics, having knowledge of it can enhance understanding and reduce the need for memorization of formulas.
  • There is a request for recommendations on algebra-based physics textbooks, but some participants express uncertainty due to their lack of experience with such materials.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of calculus for understanding physics. While some believe it is beneficial, others maintain that it is not required for the algebra-based curriculum. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to learning physics in this context.

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The discussion highlights the importance of a solid background in algebra and trigonometry as prerequisites for the physics courses. There is also a mention of the specific nature of the curriculum being algebra-based, which may influence the choice of review materials.

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In September I will be a Junior in high school (11th grade). I am already taking Chemistry, and thinking about taking Physics also. I have basic trigonometry knowledge (I will also be taking A2T (Algebra 2, Trig) at the same time as this course. The first half of the year is College Physics I, and the second half is College Physics II. I have some money lying around and I want to get a review book for both of the courses, and help would be highly appreciated. Thanks! .
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Without knowing what your Physics I and II entails it is hard to answer. You can start with the books that would be used for your course.

I am not really sure sure how one learns physics without learning calculus first. It may make sense to learn basic calculus first from a book such as
Quick Calculus: A Self-Teaching Guide by Kleppner
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471827223/?tag=pfamazon01-20

or sort of learn both calculus and mechanics together from Savov
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0992001005/?tag=pfamazon01-20

You do need a solid background in Algebra and Trigonometry as well. In my opinion, you would do much better if you try to learn the basic required math before tackling physics.
 
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smodak said:
Without knowing what your Physics I and II entails it is hard to answer. You can start with the books that would be used for your course.

I am not really sure sure how one learns physics without learning calculus first. It may make sense to learn basic calculus first from a book such as
Quick Calculus: A Self-Teaching Guide by Kleppner
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471827223/?tag=pfamazon01-20

or sort of learn both calculus and mechanics together from Savov
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0992001005/?tag=pfamazon01-20

You do need a solid background in Algebra and Trigonometry as well. In my opinion, you would do much better if you try to learn the basic required math before tackling physics.

Also to be noted, the course is strictly Algebra based. There is little-to-basically none Calculus.
 
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Algebra said:
Also to be noted, the course is strictly Algebra based. There is little-to-basically none Calculus.
Sorry, hopefully others can help you. I never read an algebra based physics textbook so cannot really recommend one.
 
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smodak said:
Sorry, hopefully others can help you. I never read a algebra based physics textbook so cannot really recommend one.
All good! Thanks for taking your time to reply. Have a good rest of your day.
 
Algebra said:
Also to be noted, the course is strictly Algebra based. There is little-to-basically none Calculus.

That might be true, but it would still be useful to know calculus. In algebra based physics they just throw the formula at you. When you know calculus, you can see why the formula actually makes sense. So while calculus is not necessary, it will still enhance your understanding and you'll have to memorize less.
 
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micromass said:
That might be true, but it would still be useful to know calculus. In algebra based physics they just throw the formula at you. When you know calculus, you can see why the formula actually makes sense. So while calculus is not necessary, it will still enhance your understanding and you'll have to memorize less.
Could not have said it better myself.
 
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micromass said:
That might be true, but it would still be useful to know calculus. In algebra based physics they just throw the formula at you. When you know calculus, you can see why the formula actually makes sense. So while calculus is not necessary, it will still enhance your understanding and you'll have to memorize less.
Thank you :) I really appreciate it. I don't know what to do then. I'll be taking A2T this year, and calculus next school year (taking pre-calc over the summer). Thanks again for you feedback, I'll keep it in mind. Have a good day :)
 

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