Rocket Engine Thrust Formula Help

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The discussion focuses on deriving the rocket engine thrust formula T = P/R AV + (P-B)A, emphasizing the need for understanding momentum flow rate and the application of F=ma. Participants clarify the variables involved, particularly the pressure difference across the nozzle and the significance of exit velocity. The thrust is described as the sum of momentum change and additional thrust from the pressure difference at the exit area. The mass flow rate is linked to density, velocity, and area, with density defined by the ideal gas law. The conversation highlights the importance of unit consistency and the potential omission of terms in the thrust equation.
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hello,

does anyone know how to derive the ROCKET ENGINE THRUST formula:

T = P/R AV + (P-B)A

i know you need to use F=ma and Momentum flow rate equations to get the first place. but what do you do after that?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Michael
 
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Explain your variables. I see you are accounting for pressure difference across the nozzle in the second term, but I want to make sure of the variables in the first term.
 
The thrust is the sum of the momentum change (mass flow) * (exit velocity) if the nozzle is over or under expanded than you will get extra thrust from the exit area times the pressure difference (Exit Plane Pressure - Ambient Pressure) * (Exit Area)

\dot{m} V+({V}_{exit} -{V}_{amb}){A}_{exit}

The mass flow is density times velocity times area, by perfect gas law

\rho = \frac{P}{RT}


\frac{P}{RT}V^{2}+({V}_{exit} -{V}_{amb}){A}_{exit}

so it looks like there is a T missing and the velocity should be squared. CHECK YOUR UNITS!
 
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