What is the thrust of the engine?

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The thrust of the rocket engine is calculated using the equation T = ma, resulting in a thrust of 8.0 x 10^4 N, assuming negligible gravitational forces. For the exhaust ejection rate, the discussion clarifies that thrust is defined as Vrel multiplied by the rate of mass change (dM/dt). Participants suggest setting the thrust equal to the calculated value from part A to solve for the exhaust rate. The confusion arises from the distinction between thrust and exhaust rate, emphasizing that they are not directly interchangeable. The conversation concludes with a focus on applying the correct formulas to determine the exhaust rate.
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A rocket is moving away from the solar system at a speed of 6.0 x 10^3 m/s. It fires its engine, which ejects exhaust with a speed of 3.0 x 10^3 m/s relative to the rocket. The mass of the rocket at this time is 4.0 x 10^4 kg, and its acceleration is 2.0 m/s/s.

A) What is the thrust of the engine?

I thought to use the equation T = ma ? T = (4.0 x 10^4 kg)(2.0m/s/s) = 8.0 x 10^4 N.

B) At what rate, in kilograms per second, is exhaust ejected?

I'm stumped on this one, I thought that's what Thrust was?

I thought to maybe use the equation: Vf-Vi = Vrel ln(Mi/Mf) but i don't even know how to use it in this situation... Any help would be great, thanks! ~Dave
 
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I think you need to use momentum.
 
Originally posted by NanoTech
A) What is the thrust of the engine?

I thought to use the equation T = ma ? T = (4.0 x 10^4 kg)(2.0m/s/s) = 8.0 x 10^4 N.
Right. (Assuming that the gravitational force is negligible and that the thrust is the only force on the rocket.)
B) At what rate, in kilograms per second, is exhaust ejected?

I'm stumped on this one, I thought that's what Thrust was?
How could an exhaust rate be equal to a force? The units don't match.

Anyhow, thrust is given by Vrel*dM/dt.
 
ok, so for part B. i take the derivative of the mass, then multiply it by the Vrel. thanks. ~Dave
 
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ok, so for part B. i take the derivative of the mass, then multiply it by the Vrel.
For part B you are to find the exhaust rate, which is dM/dt. Set the thrust equal to what you found in part A, then solve for dM/dt.
 
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