Rocket Problem: Solving for Velocity, Time, and Altitude

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving a rocket's ascent, focusing on its velocity, time, and altitude. The rocket accelerates at 3.2 m/s² until it reaches 950 meters, where it runs out of fuel, achieving a velocity of 78 m/s and taking 24 seconds to reach that altitude. After fuel depletion, it continues to ascend due to its initial velocity, reaching a maximum altitude of 1.26 km after an additional time of approximately 8 seconds. Confusion arises from obtaining two time values when calculating the time to reach the maximum altitude, attributed to rounding errors and the nature of the equations used. The discussion highlights the importance of using precise calculations and appropriate equations to avoid such discrepancies.
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Rocket Problem, please help :)

Homework Statement


A rocket rises vertically, from rest, with an acceleration of 3.2 m/s^2 until it runs out of fuel at an altitude of 950 meters. After this point, it's acceleration is that of gravity, downward. a) What is the velocity of the rocket when it runs out of fuel? b) How long does it take to reach this point? c) What maximum altitude does the rocket reach? d) How much time (total) does it take to reach the maximum altitude?

Homework Equations


2a x Delta Y = Vf^2 - Vi^2
a = Delta V / t
Quadratic Formula

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I need to find the velocity of the rocket when it runs out of fuel.
I used 2a x Delta Y = Vf^2 - Vi^2
Plug in: 2 (3.2 m/s^2) (950 meters) = V^2 - 0
Answer: V^2 = 6080 m^2/s^2, thus V = 78 m/s

Second, I need to find how long it takes to reach this point.
I used a = Delta V / t and solve for t which makes: t = Delta V / a
Plug in: t = (78 m/s) / (3.2 m/s^2)
Answer: 24 seconds

Third, I need to find the maximum altitude the rocket reaches. Its already at 950 m once the fuel runs out.
I used 2a x Delta Y = Vf^2 - Vi^2, where Vi = 78 m/s, Vf^2 = 0 and a = g = -9.80 m/s^2
I solve for Delta Y, thus equation is Delta Y = Vf^2 - Vi^2 / 2a
Plug in: Delta Y = (0) - (78 m/s)^2 / 2 (-9.80), which = 6084 / 19.6 = 310 m
Answer: 310 m + 950 m = 1260 m or 1.26 km

Now here's where I get confused. I need to find the total time it takes to reach that maximum altitude of 1260 m. I already calculated that it took 24 seconds to reach 950 m, before decelerating and reaching zero velocity at 1260 m.
I used Delta Y = Vot + 0.5(-g)t^2
Plug in: 310 m = (78 m/s) t + (-4.90) t^2
I get: 4.9t^2 - 78t + 310 = 0
I use quadratic formula and I get 2 values for time, 7.7 and 8.2 seconds. Wtf?

Appreciate the help thank you
 
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Libohove90 said:
Now here's where I get confused. I need to find the total time it takes to reach that maximum altitude of 1260 m. I already calculated that it took 24 seconds to reach 950 m, before decelerating and reaching zero velocity at 1260 m.
I used Delta Y = Vot + 0.5(-g)t^2
Plug in: 310 m = (78 m/s) t + (-4.90) t^2
I get: 4.9t^2 - 78t + 310 = 0
I use quadratic formula and I get 2 values for time, 7.7 and 8.2 seconds. Wtf?

Appreciate the help thank you
You are getting two values because of rounding errors and use of an equation that is sensitive to those errors. Suppose an object is thrown upward with a velocity of 78 m/s. With g=9.8 m/s2, this object would reach a maximum altitude of 310.4 meters, not 310 meters. This means it will pass through 310 meters twice, about 0.3 seconds before and 0.3 seconds after reaching the peak of 310.4 meters.

Let's see what the radical is, without reducing things to numbers. Denote
  • a as the upward acceleration while the rocket is firing (3.2 m/s2)
  • g as the downward acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s2)
  • h1 as the given 950 meters 'til rocket cutoff
  • vc as the upward velocity at rocket cutoff (your 78 m/s)
  • h2 as the additional height traveled after the rocket cutoff (your 310 meters)

You derived that v_c^2 = 2 h_1 a[/tex] and h_2 = h_1\,a/g. The radical in your quadratic equation is v_c^2 - 4 h_2 (g/2) = 2 h_1 a - 4 (h_1 a/g)(g/2)[/tex], and this is obviously zero. You obtained a non-zero (positive) value because you rounded some intermediate values. You are lucky in a sense; your radical could easily have been negative due to rounding errors.<br /> <br /> Perhaps you need a different equation. You are trying to find when the velocity is zero. An equation that directly addresses velocity might be useful here.
 
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