Rolling without Slipping - axes of rotation and centripital acceleration

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of centripetal acceleration at the top of a rolling wheel, specifically addressing the relationship between translational velocity, angular velocity, and centripetal acceleration. The formula derived for centripetal acceleration at the top of the wheel is confirmed as ##a_{c(top)} = 2ω^2r##. The conversation also explores the implications of calculating angular velocity (##ω##) and angular acceleration (##α##) relative to the center of the wheel, emphasizing that the accelerations must remain consistent in both the ground frame and the wheel center frame.

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Therefore, if someone were to ask what the magnitude of centripetal acceleration is at the top of the wheel at a given instant (relative to the ground):
##v_{cm} = v_{translational, center-of-mass/wheel}##
##ω = ω_{point-of-contact}##
##v_{top} = 2(v_{cm}) = 2(rω)##
##a_{c(top)} = \frac{v_{top}^2}{R} = \frac{(2v_{cm})^2}{2r} = \frac{2(v_{cm})^2}{r} = \frac{2(ωr)^2}{r} = 2ω^2r##
I think this is correct.

But, what is the ##ω## and ##α## about the center of the wheel?
Also, what is the ##a_{c(top)}## relative to the center of wheel? Would that even make sense?See this image:
Rolling without slipping down an Incline.png
 
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lightlightsup said:
Therefore, if someone were to ask what the magnitude of centripetal acceleration is at the top of the wheel at a given instant (relative to the ground):
##v_{cm} = v_{translational, center-of-mass/wheel}##
##ω = ω_{point-of-contact}##
##v_{top} = 2(v_{cm}) = 2(rω)##
##a_{c(top)} = \frac{v_{top}^2}{R} = \frac{(2v_{cm})^2}{2r} = \frac{2(v_{cm})^2}{r} = \frac{2(ωr)^2}{r} = 2ω^2r##
I think this is correct.
For a wheel rolling at constant speed, the accelerations at the rim must be same in the ground frame and in the wheel center frame: ##ω^2r##. You cannot derive the acceleration in the ground frame like you did, by using a moving center for the centripetal acceleration.

See also:
https://www.raeng.org.uk/publications/other/20-wheels-bssc
 
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