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News Ron Paul voted the most popular speaker at CPAC

  1. Feb 25, 2010 #1
    That certainly says a lot about where the direction the conservative movement is heading in. Ron paul seems to have gotten people my age thrilled and euthiasitic about the concepts of liberty . I am surprised that he beat out mitt romney and sarah palin? THoughts?
     
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  3. Feb 25, 2010 #2
    I think Ron Paul was the only guy there that has more than two brain cells. Hopefully conservatives are starting to get wise and realizing the majority of their party leaders are idiots.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2010 #3

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    I think he's a sandwich short of a picnic. If I had to choose between Sarah Palin and Ron Paul <shudder>, no I can't even think about it.

    This was a poll of attendees, not a poll of the public. :uhh:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-j-elisberg/cpac-the-partys-over_b_473024.html
     
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  5. Feb 25, 2010 #4
    . Believe me if Fox news is even saying that ron paul won the debate at CPAC, a man they excluded from the republican debates ,then its legit.
     
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  6. Feb 25, 2010 #5

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    http://66.147.244.188/~conserz8/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/2-10-CPAC-Straw-Poll-Final-Compatibility-Mode.pdf [Broken]

    Page 11

    (The link looks odd, but it is right off the CPAC home page http://www.cpac.org/)
     
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  7. Feb 25, 2010 #6
    I threw up in my mouth a little bit watching that video
     
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  8. Feb 25, 2010 #7

    Evo

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    It was a vote by attendees, a large portion of which were his followers. It's meaningless, see below. Edit: I just watched your link, that's not valid as a supporting link. That's a bunch of news clips pieced together. That was pretty bad.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/20/cpac-2010-straw-poll-resu_n_470319.html
     
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  9. Feb 25, 2010 #8

    DavidSnider

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    The poll was 64% male and 54% 18-25 year olds.
     
  10. Feb 25, 2010 #9

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    It does. Considering the age of the members supporting Ron Paul, it would be accurate to say it's the direction the conservative movement is headed.

    It probably doesn't say much about the current state of the conservative movement, though.

    Couple things about CPAC.

    http://www.cpac.org/registration.html [Broken]).

    How the straw poll broke down: The math behind Ron Paul's victory.

    This isn't the kind of result that will be likely to provide Ron Paul any personal success, but it is an indication that younger conservatives are more libertarian, which could definitely affect the type of Republican candidates we'll be likely to see by the end of this decade.

    In fact, any party that makes it a policy to drive out the moderates, as Republicans seem intent on doing, winds up making it easier for an equally committed minority to take over the party on its own terms. Not a bad principle, since it's this principle that winds up keeping both parties from being taken over by extremists. In this case, incompatibility between libertarians (in general) and social conservatives could result in a much smaller political plank focusing only on the issues that both groups could agree on - which would be fiscal policy.

    It's not a wholly bad development, even if Ron Paul is a flake. I guess it could wind up providing some rather bizarre choices in the short term, as I kind of agree with Evo about having to choose between Ron Paul and Sarah Palin.
     
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  11. Feb 25, 2010 #10
    I've heard a few times whether the republican party is going to survive or just fall apart
     
  12. Feb 25, 2010 #11
    Ron Paul and Sarah palin are not even in the same leaugue with each other. What do you have against ron paul's politics? To me, He seems to be the only level headed politician in Washington right now. He really stands behind what he believes in and does not alter his politics to appeal to a broader base.
     
  13. Feb 25, 2010 #12
    I don't think Ron Paul would claim that there is a Dept of Law.
     
  14. Feb 25, 2010 #13

    DavidSnider

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    Any candidate that says "I'm going to turn everything upside down and change the world!" is going to have broad support among 18-25 year olds who have almost nothing invested in the status quo.

    I think what is more likely is that the current crop of young republicans will grow out of it.
     
  15. Feb 25, 2010 #14
    Sarah Palin seems to stand for what she believes in ----I don't know what it is, but shes says most things with 'conviction'---maybe that's all it takes
     
  16. Feb 25, 2010 #15
    And its not just ron paul attendees and followers that approve of him. Ron paul has one of the highest congressional approval ratings in congress right now((http://www.opencongress.org/search/....x=0&submit.y=0&submit=Search&search_congress[111]=111&search_bills=1&search_people=1&search_committees=1&search_issues=1&search_comments=1&search_gossip_blog=0) , while congress pathetically has an approval rating of 14 percent( http://www.gallup.com/poll/108856/congressional-approval-hits-recordlow-14.aspx) and so called more well known politicians like McCain have an approval rating of 40 percenthttp://www.opencongress.org/search/result?q=++++++++++Sen.+John+McCain+[R%2C+AZ]+++&submit.x=40&submit.y=18&submit=Search&search_congress[111]=111&search_bills=1&search_people=1&search_committees=1&search_issues=1&search_comments=1&search_gossip_blog=0) and Nancy peloci has an approval rating of 10 percent(http://www.opencongress.org/search/...=29&submit.y=13&submit=Search&search_congress[111]=111&search_bills=1&search_people=1&search_committees=1&search_issues=1&search_comments=1&search_gossip_blog=0. You might have to type the words John McCain and Nancy Pelosi into the search box. But the numbers are there
     
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  17. Feb 25, 2010 #16

    Evo

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    Noblegas, this is not acceptable. opencongress is not an acceptable mainstream source, not to mention your links don't work except to lead to a search page. Please post from mainstream sources and make sure your links work.
     
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  18. Feb 25, 2010 #17
    Before attacking and throwing useless statistics out that people who agree with this statement probably don't really care about, how about asking a simple question first:

    Why?

    I'm interested to hear your stand point on him, and why you say that.
     
  19. Feb 25, 2010 #18
    Thats why I said that you might have to type the names of members of the congress that I listed in the Search box on the website. What is wrong with opencongress.org? They showcase what bills are being currently proposed and what bills have been passedThey don't lean towards any particular political affiliation and you posted me a wikipedia link last week and many have disputed the validity of wikipedia links since people can add just about any source to them. This section of the site list all of the approval ratings of the representatives in congress along with their approval rating. (http://www.opencongress.org/people/representatives#T). Ron Paul is at 93 percent. Wow. There are a lot a congress representatives with F's right now.
     
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  20. Feb 25, 2010 #19

    Evo

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    It's not an attack, and the staistics on the vote are from the convention itself. I've listed my reasons for my opinion of Paul before and really don't care enough to bother with it. It's my opinion and I don't have to back up an opinion. If you can't see what I see then it's pointless discussing it.

    @ Noblegas,
    It's basically a blog that posts links to bills.
     
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  21. Feb 25, 2010 #20

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    I wouldn't equate Ron Paul to Sarah Palin. Paul is a physician with 40 years of experience in Congress. Sarah Palin went to six colleges; has a degree in media something or other; served as mayor in a two-horse town, and then quit her job as Governer after two years. I don't think Paul is Presidential material, but to put him on the same plate as Palin indefensible.

    The problem that I see with Paul is that he is an idealist to the point of being impractical.
     
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