Rotation dynamics pulley concept confusion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the linear acceleration of two masses suspended from a pulley, with a focus on the equations of motion and torque. The initial attempt included free body diagrams and equations for tension and acceleration, but there were errors in the tension assumptions and torque calculations. Corrections were suggested, highlighting the need for consistent tension direction and proper application of torque equations. The final correct formula for acceleration was confirmed as a = (m2 - m1)g / (m1 + m2 + M/2). The conversation concluded with a resolution of confusion regarding the equations used.
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Homework Statement


A light string is passed over a pulley and two masses m1 and m2 are suspended from the two free ends. The pulley is a uniform circular disc of mass M. Find the linear acceleration of the two masses. Friction may be neglected.

Homework Equations


I through center of the disc = MR^2 /2
The answer is a= (m2-m1)g / (m1+m2+M/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew 3 free body diagrams separately, and get T-m1g = m1a..(1)
m2g-T=m2a...(2)
1/2 MR^2 (a/R) = 2TR (2 tension acting both clockwise if I assume m2 is on the right hand side and it is heavier than m1) ...(3)
Plz point out what's wrong in each equation 1,2,3, thxxxx
 
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You are wrong in 2TR because the tension direction opposite and also the rope's tension isn't same in this equation. I will add true equations in few minutes
 
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\begin{equation}
m_2.g-T_2=m_2.a
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
T_1-m_1g=m_1.a
\end{equation}
If i use torque
\begin{equation}
T_2.R-T_1.R=M.R^2.\alpha\div{2}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\alpha.R=a
\end{equation}
If there is misunderstanding in your mind, you will ask me.
 
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Safakphysics said:
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\begin{equation}
m_2.g-T_2=m_2.a
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
T_1-m_1g=m_1.a
\end{equation}
If i use torque
\begin{equation}
T_2.R-T_1.R=M.R^2.\alpha\div{2}
\end{equation}
\begin{equation}
\alpha.R=a
\end{equation}
If there is misunderstanding in your mind, you will ask me.

Thank you. I got it.
 
You are welcome
 
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