Rubber wheel (angular acceleration)

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a rubber wheel driving a larger pottery wheel, focusing on angular acceleration and the relationship between the two wheels. The original poster presents a problem involving the angular acceleration of both wheels and the time required for the pottery wheel to reach a specific speed.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the angular acceleration of the rubber wheel to that of the pottery wheel, questioning the nature of the acceleration transferred between the two wheels. Some participants explore the proportionality of angular displacements and accelerations, while others consider the implications of the radii on angular acceleration and torque.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the relationships between the wheels. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proportionality of angular quantities, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or assumptions being made.

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There is a noted lack of information regarding the moments of inertia of the wheels, which some participants mention as a necessary factor for a complete analysis of the torques involved. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and the definitions of the accelerations involved.

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A small rubber wheel is used to drive a large pottery wheel, and they are mounted so that their circular edges touch. The small wheel has a radius of 2.0cm and accelerates at the rate of 7.2rad/s^2 and it is in contact with the pottery wheel (radius 25.0cm) without slipping. Calculate:
a) the angular acceleration of the pottery wheel
b) the time it takes the pottery wheel to reach its required speed of 65rpm


My approach:
What I can determine with the rubber wheel:

0.02m = r
7.2 rad/s^2 = angular acc

Atan= (0.02)(7.2) = .144 m/s^2

I think the Atan is the radial acceleration for the pottery wheel but I'm not sure.
If I can get the angular acceleration I can solve for t using Wot + 1/2 (angular acceleration) t^2 = theta ( I think).

If I assumed Atan was the radial acceleration I attempted to solve for w in Radial Acceleration= w^2r w = 0.76m/s

I'm not sure what to think of my approach. The key is what type of acceleration is transferred from the rubber wheel to the pottery wheel?

Thanks in advance. This forum is great!
 
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The angular displacement of the big wheel is proportional to the angular displacement of the small wheel. That means the angular velocities and accelerations are also proportional with the same ratio. How many radians does the big wheel rotate when the small wheel rotates one radian?
 
So R2 is 12.5 times the radius of the rubber wheel. This means that the angular acceleration of the second wheel is 1/12.5 the given angular acceleration of the rubber wheel? This also means the torque on the second wheel is 12.5 times the torque on the rubber wheel?

Does this sound correct?

Thanks.
 
FossilFew said:
So R2 is 12.5 times the radius of the rubber wheel. This means that the angular acceleration of the second wheel is 1/12.5 the given angular acceleration of the rubber wheel? This also means the torque on the second wheel is 12.5 times the torque on the rubber wheel?

Does this sound correct?

Thanks.
Your conclusion about the torque applies only to the magnitudes of the torques the wheels exert on one another. By Newton's third law they must apply equal and opposite forces upon one another, so the torques would be in proportion to their radii. The net rorque on the small wheel includes some driving torque from a motor that has to overcome the torque from the big wheel to accelerate the small wheel. You would need to know the moments of inertia of both wheels to analyze the torques in the problem. You do not have this information. Fortunately, you do not need it. This prolem is not about the torques on the wheels.
 

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