Running Out of Gas - work & power problem

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The problem involves a car rolling down a 150 m hill at 36 km/h, with a total distance of 3000 m and a mass of 1000 kg, while experiencing a rolling friction force of 400 N. The key equations for energy conservation and work done by friction are discussed, with an emphasis on the correct conversion of initial speed from km/h to m/s. A significant error was identified in the initial speed conversion, which should be 10 m/s instead of 1 m/s. The discussion highlights the importance of accounting for negative work done by friction and changes in gravitational potential energy. Overall, the conversation underscores the necessity of careful unit conversion and understanding energy principles in physics problems.
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1. Homework Statement :
You are at the top of a hill that is 150 m in height and are traveling at 36 km/h when your car runs out of gas. Due to the relatively shallow grade, the road down the hill is 3000 m long. After rolling down the hill, the car continues to roll on a horizontal section of road. The mass of the car and driver is 1000 kg and on both the hill and the horizontal stretch, the rolling friction is equal to 400 N. Neglect air drag in this problem and use g = 10 m/s2.


2. Homework Equations :
Assuming you do not apply the brakes, what is your speed vf when you arrive at the bottom of the hill? Remember that this answer will be an overestimate since we are neglecting air drag.
Give your answer to 3 significant figures in km/h. Pay careful attention to your signs in this question!


3. The Attempt at a Solution :
I've tried been using these equations that we went over in class...
Kf - Ki = -f*d (not sure if this is relevant)
Wfriction = \DeltaU + Kf - Ki
Converting vi to m/s: 36*1000/3600 = 1
(400*3000) = 1,500,000 + (1/2)(1000)*vf2 - (1/2)(1000)(1)
...which ends up in a disaster of imaginary numberness if I'm punching it all in correctly. D:
I've also tried some other methods (putting minus signs wherever), but my answers (I've gotten 176m/s and 88.3m/s) have come up as wrong every time.

Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
 
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DraculaNotI said:
Wfriction = \DeltaU + Kf - Ki

Converting vi to m/s: 36*1000/3600 = 1
(400*3000) = 1,500,000 + (1/2)(1000)*vf2 - (1/2)(1000)(1)
...which ends up in a disaster of imaginary numberness if I'm punching it all in correctly. D:

36*1000/3600 = 10, not 1

The work done by friction is always negative, and so is \Delta U because the
car has less gravitational potential energy when it has moves down the hill.
 
Thank you, willem2! It makes a lot more sense now (plus I've had a good 9 hours of sleep). :)

Lesson learned: don't try to convert units in your head at 1am
 
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