Sakurai Degenerate Perturbation Theory: projection operators

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The discussion revolves around the application of degenerate perturbation theory as presented in Sakurai's book, specifically focusing on the equations and concepts related to projection operators in the context of time-independent perturbation theory. Participants are examining specific equations and their implications, raising questions about notation, derivations, and the behavior of operators within the framework of perturbation theory.

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  • One participant questions how an extra projection operator P_1 appears on the right-hand side of an equation, suggesting that it may relate to the properties of the operator being restricted to a subspace.
  • Another participant proposes that the operator E - H0 - λP1VP1 is singular and cannot be inverted, but its projection onto the P1 subspace is nonsingular, allowing for inversion within that context.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the third term in a derived expression, with one participant asserting that it contains a λ² factor, which would only contribute higher-order terms when expanded, rather than conflicting with the order of λ in the surrounding terms.

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Participants express differing views on the manipulation of projection operators and the implications of singularity in the context of perturbation theory. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple interpretations of the equations and their derivations presented.

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Participants note potential limitations in understanding due to notation and the properties of projection operators, particularly regarding their invertibility and the behavior of operators in specific subspaces.

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Hi,

So, I am working through section 5.2 of Sakurai's book which is "Time Independent Perturbation Theory: The Degenerate Case", and I see a few equations I'm having some trouble reconciling with probably because of notation. These are equations 5.2.3, 5.2.4, 5.2.5 and 5.2.7.

First, we define a projection operator P_0 onto the space defined by \{|m^{(0)}\rangle\}. We define P_1 = 1-P_0 to be the projection onto the remaining states. There are g different eigenkets with the same unperturbed energy E_{D}^{(0)}. So, we have

(E-E_{D}^{(0)} - \lambda P_0 V)P_0|l\rangle - \lambda P_0 V P_1|l\rangle = 0
-\lambda P_1 V P_0 |l\rangle + (E - H_0 - \lambda P_1 V)P_1 |l\rangle = 0

So the second equation supposedly gives equation 5.2.5

P_1 |l\rangle = P_1 \frac{\lambda}{E-H_0-\lambda P_1 V P_1}P_1 V P_0|l\rangle

Question 1: How does one get the extra P_1 on the RHS sticking to the left?

Now if we substitute this into the second of the two equations above, we supposedly get

\left(E-E_{D}^{(0)} - \lambda P_0 V P_0 - \lambda^2 P_0 V P_1 \frac{1}{E-H_0-\lambda V}P_1 V P_0\right)P_0|l\rangle = 0

Question 2: In the third term, in the denominator, how does one get \lambda V instead of \lambda P_1 V P_1?<br /> <br /> Finally, using this last expression, Sakurai obtains for |l^{(0)}\rangle the condition<br /> <br /> (E-E_{D}^{(0)}-\lambda P_0 V P_0)(P_0 |l^{(0)}\rangle) = 0<br /> <br /> <b>Question 3: How does one arrive at this condition?</b> The operator in the brackets is written to order \lambda, but the third term also has an order \lambda term. Isn't the idea here to expand both the big bracket and the ket as two power series in \lambda and then equate the "coefficients" of each term order by order to the right hand side, which is identically zero?<br /> <br /> Any help or hints will be much appreciated!
 
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maverick280857 said:
Question 1: How does one get the extra P_1 on the RHS sticking to the left?
I only have time to look at this one right now. You multiply both sides of the second equation by this:
\begin{align}
(E-H_0-\lambda P_1 V)^{-1} &=P_1P_1^{~-1}(E-H_0-\lambda P_1 V)^{-1} =P_1\big((E-H_0-\lambda P_1 V)P_1\big)^{-1}\\
&=P_1\big((E-H_0)P_1-\lambda P_1VP_1\big)^{-1}
\end{align} I guess we must have ##(E-H_0)P_1=E-H_0## somehow. Hm...I think that this is not true, but we can pretend that it is as long as the operator above only acts on states of the form ##P_1|\text{something}\rangle##. To put it differently, the restriction of ##E-H_0## to the subspace ##P_1(\mathcal H)## (where ##\mathcal H## is the Hilbert space) is equal to the restriction of ##(E-H_0)P_1## to that subspace.

Edit: D'oh, this doesn't make sense. Projection operators aren't invertible. Unfortunately I have to leave the computer for a couple of hours now.
 
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maverick280857 said:
Question 1: How does one get the extra P_1 on the RHS sticking to the left?

I believe Sakurai gives the answer to this. E - H0 - λP1VP1 is singular and can't be inverted. But it is nonsingular in the P1 subspace. So we invert its projection, P1(E - H0 - λP1VP1)P1, gettting P1(E - H0 - λP1VP1)-1 P1.
 
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Question 3: How does one arrive at this condition? The operator in the brackets is written to order \lambda, but the third term also has an order \lambda term.
No, the third term already has a λ2 in front, and if you expand (E - H0 - λV)-1 in a power series for small λ, it will contribute only more positive powers of λ.
 
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