Scattering collisions/lorentz-invariant quantity

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The discussion focuses on the importance of high-energy electrons in probing the internal structure of protons and neutrons through scattering experiments. It emphasizes that the electron's wavelength must be shorter than the size of the nucleons, approximately 1x10-15 meters, to achieve effective resolution. The participants discuss the calculations needed for momentum and energy in the context of Lorentz-invariant quantities, highlighting the necessity of using quantum mechanics (QM) and special relativity (SR) principles. Key insights include the relationship between electron momentum and wavelength, as well as the significance of center-of-mass energy in particle collisions.

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hey guys, here's the question.

Physicts probe inside neutrons and protons by scattering electrons off them.
(i) Explain briefly why it is important that the electrons have high energy.

(ii) Assuming that the protons and neutrons were at rest, calculate the minimum momentum to which the electrons should be accelerated, in order to perform such experiments successfully.

(iii) Considering such scattering collisions in the laboratory frame of reference (where the target is stationary), write formulae for the energies of the electrons and target, and evaluate them in GeV (you may ignore the rest-mass of the electron).

(iv) The total energy in the centre-of-mass reference frame in such electron-nucleon collisions corresponds to the maximum possible mass of all particles in the final state and is a Lorentz-invariant quantity. Ignoring the rest-mass of the electron, calculate this quantity.

My workings:

(i) to ensure that they penetrate the protons and neutrons.

(ii) using wavelngth=planck's const/momentum gives 1.2.

(iii) can someone give me a hint for this part please. i don't understand how to get the velocity for the electron (it says ignore rest mass so using this in part (ii) won't help). also how are we supposed to know the final energies, as we're not told velocities etc.

(iv) are we supposed to use the energies calculated for the neutron is (iii) and somehow find the velocity so we can work out the mass?

thanks for any help.
 
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You have to proceed from the fact that the electron is a wave and that proton/neutron size is finite, R_n, for example. In order to "see" such a small size, the electron wave-length should be shorter than R_n (to be close to the case of "geometrical optics"). Then simple QM and SR formulae are sufficient to resolve this problem.

Bob.
 
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You have to proceed from the fact that the electron is a wave and that proton/neutron size is finite, R_n, for example. In order to "see" such a small size, the electron wave-length should be shorter than R_n (to be close to the case of "geometrical optics"). Then simple QM and SR formulae are sufficient to resolve this problem.

Bob.

hi bob, thanks for the reply.
so the proton size is 1x10^{-15}, and so this helps me with (ii).

sorry i haven't done any relativity so i don't have a clue what it is on about (i'm a maths student doing a physics course). which formulae?

thanks
 

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