Can Schrödinger's Cat's State Be Measured Through Gravity?

In summary, the conversation is discussing the concept of the Schrodinger's cat thought experiment and the idea of measuring the cat's state through its gravitational field. The participants also mention the possibility of measuring alternative wave functions through their gravitational effects. Ultimately, they disagree on whether a gravitational field should be considered an interaction and contained in the wave equation.
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jon4444
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I realize that Schrodinger intended this thought experiment as a way to show how absurd the interpretation of a cat being in two states was. I don't understand how that interpretation can be entertained in the first place due to gravity.

Say you were measuring the gravitational field (very accurately) around the experiment. You could detect whether the cat was alive or dead based on its effect on gravity (either cause it's moving around or not or breathing or not). Thus the cat's state is "measurable" without interacting it through the wave function.

Similarly for any "multiple worlds" interpretation of qm--if there are multiple worlds why can't we measure the alternative wave functions through their gravitation effects on the "version" of the wave functions we live in?
 
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jon4444 said:
Say you were measuring the gravitational field (very accurately) around the experiment. You could detect whether the cat was alive or dead based on its effect on gravity (either cause it's moving around or not or breathing or not). Thus the cat's state is "measurable" without interacting it through the wave function.
Its gravitational field IS an interaction. No different if the cat were charged, and you monitored its Coulomb field.
 
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Bill_K said:
Its gravitational field IS an interaction. No different if the cat were charged, and you monitored its Coulomb field.

But I thought its Coulomb field would be something "contained" in wave equation, whereas its gravitational field would not...
 
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jon4444 said:
But I thought its Coulomb field would be something "contained" in wave equation, whereas its gravitational field would not...
Well you were wrong, then, weren't you. :smile:
 

1. Is Schrödinger's Cat a real cat?

No, Schrödinger's Cat is a thought experiment created by physicist Erwin Schrödinger in 1935 to explain the concept of superposition in quantum mechanics.

2. What is the significance of Schrödinger's Cat in physics?

Schrödinger's Cat is used to illustrate the concept of superposition, where an object can exist in multiple states at the same time. It also raises questions about the role of observation and measurement in quantum mechanics.

3. How does gravity affect Schrödinger's Cat?

Gravity is not a factor in the original thought experiment of Schrödinger's Cat, as it is meant to take place in a sealed box. However, in reality, gravity would have an influence on the cat's position and the state of the radioactive substance that determines its fate.

4. Can Schrödinger's Cat be both alive and dead at the same time?

In theory, yes. According to the principles of quantum mechanics, the cat could exist in a superposition of both alive and dead states until it is observed or measured and collapses into one definite state.

5. Has Schrödinger's Cat been proven or disproven?

Schrödinger's Cat is a thought experiment and cannot be proven or disproven in the traditional sense. However, the principles it represents have been experimentally verified in the field of quantum mechanics.

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