Sequence of functions in L^2[-pi,pi]

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Homework Statement


Consider the functions f_n(x)=e^{inx},n\in\mathbb{Z},-\pi\leq x\leq\pi viewed as points in \mathscr{L}^2[-\pi,\pi]. Prove that this set of functions is closed and bounded, but not compact.


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I'm first trying to prove that the set of functions is closed. Let g be a limit point of the set, so given any positive number epsilon, there exists fn such that \|f_n-g\|_2<\sqrt{\epsilon}. Squaring both sides, I get on the left hand side

<br /> 2\pi -2\text{Re}\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}g(x)e^{-inx}dx+\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}|g(x)|^2 dx<br />

So

<br /> g\sim\sum\limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}c_n e^{inx}<br />

and by Parseval's Theorem,

<br /> \sum\limits_{-\infty}^{\infty}|c_n|^2 = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}|g|^2 dx<br />

I don't know where to go from here.
 
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What would \|f_n-f_m\|_2 be?

Can you even have a Cauchy sequence?
 
Billy Bob said:
What would \|f_n-f_m\|_2 be?

Can you even have a Cauchy sequence?

<br /> \|f_n-f_m\|_2 = 4\pi -\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}e^{i(m-n)x}dx-\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}e^{i(n-m)x}dx<br />

so when m and n are different, there exists a positive number less than the expression above. So I would say that no, you can't have a Cauchy sequence and so this shows the set of functions is not compact.

But I'm still having trouble with proving the set is closed.
 
Could show the set is complete as a metric space, hence closed.

Note: I guess technically there are Cauchy sequences, but only the sequences that eventually become constant.
 
Thanks for your help; I have to say though that I don't see how there are sequences that eventually become constant. I can't seem to find a sequence {fn(x)} that converges to a constant value given any x.
 
I mean a sequence (a_1, a_2, a_3,\dots) in X with the property that there exists x in X and an integer N such that for all n>N, a_n=x.

For example, the sequence (f_2, f_8, f_8, f_8, f_8,\dots) where all the rest of the "points" (i.e. functions) are f_8

Such a sequence is trivially Cauchy.
 
Okay, thanks again for your assistance.
 
Sorry, just one last question: isn't any subset S of {\cal L}^2[-\pi,\pi] bounded by the zero function g(x)=0, since for any f\in S

<br /> \|f-g\|_2 = \left(\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}|f-g|^2 d\mu\right)^{1/2} = \left(\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}|f|^2 d\mu\right)^{1/2}<br />

which by definition is finite?
 
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No. Using g=0 is OK, but you would need one constant M such that for all f in S, \|f-g\|_2&lt;M

Fortunately, in this case it is easy to find such an M, with your g.
 
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All of your functions are orthogonal in L^2 and they are all of constant L^2 norm. Aren't you trying to prove the sequence is a closed set? It's a discrete set.
 
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iomtt6076 said:
<br /> \|f_n-f_m\|_2 = 4\pi -\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}e^{i(m-n)x}dx-\int_{-\pi}^{\pi}e^{i(n-m)x}dx<br />

iomtt6076, I'm just double checking. You do know what \int_{-\pi}^{\pi}e^{i(m-n)x}\,dx is, right?
 

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