Short-circuited Resistance in Parallel with Reactance

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The discussion centers on calculating the current (Is) in an induction machine circuit where the core losses are neglected, leading to Rc being treated as zero. Participants clarify that if Rc is zero, it acts as a short circuit, impacting the overall impedance when combined with reactance (jXm). There is confusion regarding the interpretation of Rc=0, with some suggesting it should be viewed as an open circuit instead. Additionally, the conversation touches on practical lab tests for induction motors, discussing the implications of rotor resistance and mechanical load on circuit analysis. The thread emphasizes the importance of understanding the behavior of resistors and reactance in parallel configurations.
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Please help me out with this. The attached figure is an equivalent circuit of an induction machine. I'm trying to find the current (Is). It's assumed that the core losses are neglected and hence Rc =0. If this is the case, then Rc (short-circuited) is in parallel with jXm. What's the resultant impedance for this parallel combination? Thx,

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The homework problem is pretty long and has different parts and I can do it. My only issue is what happens when a resistor (short-circuited) is connected to a reactance in parallel. It's more to understand a concept than to get an answer for a homework.

As I know, if two resistors are connected in parallel and one of them is short-circuited, then the other one is short-circuited too. But i don't think this works here as well. I'm wondering how to deal with a reactance connected in parallel with a short circuit.
 
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It's assumed that the core losses are neglected and hence Rc =0.

No, it means Rc is infinite. Not short circuit, but open circuit.

When an impedance (R or X or C) is short circuited, it can be neglected in the circuit.
 
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It makes sense the way you interpreted it, but it's still confusing me since Rc=0 is actually assumed in the problem statement and if the resistance = 0 that means it's a short circuit, right? Plz check the attached photo.

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In your schematic, if Rc=0, then it short circuits everything except Rs and Xs. Does that make sense to you?
 
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but it's still confusing me since Rc=0 is actually assumed in the problem statement
I believe it's a typo.

Have you performed 'no load' and 'blocked rotor' tests on an induction motor in your lab? The R2/s in the circuit is actually the sum of two components: 1) rotor resistance R2 (slip independent) and 2) the electrical equivalent of the mechanical load i.e. Rm=R2*(1-s)/s .

While analysing the blocked rotor circuit, we substitute s=1 in the above circuit. This gives Rm=0, and this corresponds to maximum copper loss. While analysing no load circuit, we put s=0 and get Rm=∞, which corresponds to zero (almost) copper loss.
 
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