Should I Use PID Regulator for My Control System?

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The discussion revolves around the choice of control strategies for a system, specifically whether to use a PID regulator or to analyze and linearize the system to design a custom closed-loop controller. Participants explore the advantages and disadvantages of each approach and consider alternative solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines two main options for controller design: using a PID regulator or linearizing the system to create a custom closed-loop controller.
  • Another participant suggests that a PID controller can be used within the closed-loop system once an LTI system is established, emphasizing the ability to adjust PID parameters based on transfer functions.
  • A participant questions whether a simple proportional controller (u = -K*x) is a valid alternative and how it relates to the PID controller, indicating uncertainty about the relationship between proportional control and PID.
  • Another participant confirms that a proportional controller can be used but suggests that PID typically offers better control capabilities, while expressing uncertainty about its relation to observers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of PID versus simpler control strategies, and there is no consensus on the best approach or the relationship between proportional control and observers.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the implications of using different control strategies, the specific advantages of PID over proportional control, or the role of observers in the context of control systems.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in control systems, particularly those exploring different controller design methodologies and their implications in practical applications.

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Hi,
I have a very basic conceptual question. I have a system (eg. inverted pendulum) that I want to control. So I need to build a controller. That is clear. If I understand it well, I have minimally two separate options:
1 - use PID regulator/controller
2 - analyze the system, linearize it about a specific point so I create LTI system and based on this design my own closed loop controller.
3 - ?

But, when and why should I choose first or second option? What are advantages and disadvantages of each approach? What are other possible solutions?

Thank you in advance!
 
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You've laid out the basic controller design steps in option 2 and you can use PID as the controller of the closed-loop system. Once you have an LTI system to deal with, you can determine from the transfer functions how big to make your PID parameters such that it approximates an ideal system. This is so you can control things like rise time, settling time, gain, etc.
 
So, I create LTI system in order to determine PID parameters. But I also have an option to create a simple controller based on closed loop formula u = -K*x, right? Or this formula is just a proportional controller, that means it is P letter from PID regulator?
And how is all this related to observer?
Thx
 
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Sure, you can just have a proportional controller which would be like a u=-K*x formula, but the PID usually does better. You can control your system a lot more with PID. I'm not sure how exactly how this relates to observer.
 

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