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The discussion focuses on determining whether the sequences of functions defined as \( f_n(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} & , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x \leq 1 \\ 0 & , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases} \) and \( f_n(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{x} & , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x < 1 \\ 0 & , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases} \) are Cauchy in \( L^1[0,1] \). The necessary condition for Cauchy sequences in \( L^1 \) is established, and the integration of the functions over the specified intervals is discussed. The integration results in a norm of 2 for the first function and an undefined value for the second, leading to the conclusion that the first sequence is Cauchy while the second is not.

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Homework Statement



Determine whether or not the following sequences of real valued functions are Cauchy in L^{1}[0,1]:

(a) f_{n}(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} &amp; , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x \leq 1 \\ 0 &amp; , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases}

(b) <br /> f_{n}(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{x} &amp; , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x &lt; 1 \\ 0 &amp; , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases}<br />

Homework Equations



\{ f_{n} \}_{n=1}^{\infty} is Cauchy in L^{1}[0,1] iff for all \epsilon&gt;0 there exists N\in\mathbb{N} such that for n,m\geq N, ||f_{n}-f_{m}||_{1} &lt; \epsilon.

The Attempt at a Solution


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In both problems I think I should get to a step where I integrate \left|\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}\right| and \left|\frac{1}{x}\right| over [0,1] and get the norm values of 2 and undefined respectively, then I can conclude easily. Embarrassingly I don't know what f_{n}-f_{m} is explicitly (in terms of its piecewise definition). I had first thought it to be zero for both cases, I don't think this is the case. Feel stupid asking this, but how do you subtract f_{n} and f_{m} in either case ?
 
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Euler2718 said:

Homework Statement



Determine whether or not the following sequences of real valued functions are Cauchy in L^{1}[0,1]:

(a) f_{n}(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} &amp; , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x \leq 1 \\ 0 &amp; , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases}

(b) <br /> f_{n}(x) = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{x} &amp; , \frac{1}{n+1}\leq x &lt; 1 \\ 0 &amp; , \text{ otherwise } \end{cases}<br />

Homework Equations



\{ f_{n} \}_{n=1}^{\infty} is Cauchy in L^{1}[0,1] iff for all \epsilon&gt;0 there exists N\in\mathbb{N} such that for n,m\geq N, ||f_{n}-f_{m}||_{1} &lt; \epsilon.

The Attempt at a Solution


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In both problems I think I should get to a step where I integrate \left|\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}\right| and \left|\frac{1}{x}\right| over [0,1] and get the norm values of 2 and undefined respectively, then I can conclude easily. Embarrassingly I don't know what f_{n}-f_{m} is explicitly (in terms of its piecewise definition). I had first thought it to be zero for both cases, I don't think this is the case. Feel stupid asking this, but how do you subtract f_{n} and f_{m} in either case ?

If ##m > n##, in what ##x##-region are ##f_m(x)## and ##f_n(x)## the same? In what ##x##-region are they different? So, what is the formula for ##f_m(x) - f_n(x)## over ##0 \leq x \leq 1?##
 
Your functions are defined piecewise, and vanish on [0, \frac{1}{n+1}). You shouldn't be getting any undefined integrals:
<br /> \int_0^1 f_n(x)\,dx = \int_0^{1/(n+1)} 0\,dx + \int_{1/(n+1)}^1 \frac1x\,dx = \left[\log(x)\right]_{1/(n+1)}^1 = -\log(1/(n+1)),<br /> etc.

You can without loss of generality assume N \leq n &lt; m.
 
Ray Vickson said:
If ##m > n##, in what ##x##-region are ##f_m(x)## and ##f_n(x)## the same? In what ##x##-region are they different? So, what is the formula for ##f_m(x) - f_n(x)## over ##0 \leq x \leq 1?##

Using (a) as an example, if m&gt;n, then f_{m} and f_{n} would be the same (both \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} ) on \frac{1}{n+1} \leq x \leq 1 and different (f_{m}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} but f_{n}=0) on \frac{1}{m+1}\leq x &lt; \frac{1}{n+1}. So \displaystyle f_{m}-f_{n} = \begin{cases} \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}} &amp;, \frac{1}{m+1}\leq x &lt; \frac{1}{n+1} \\ 0 &amp;, \text{ otherwise } \end{cases} ?

pasmith said:
Your functions are defined piecewise, and vanish on [0, \frac{1}{n+1}). You shouldn't be getting any undefined integrals:
<br /> \int_0^1 f_n(x)\,dx = \int_0^{1/(n+1)} 0\,dx + \int_{1/(n+1)}^1 \frac1x\,dx = \left[\log(x)\right]_{1/(n+1)}^1 = -\log(1/(n+1)),<br /> etc.

You can without loss of generality assume N \leq n &lt; m.

I see what you mean. I was not careful enough with the permissible x values to notice this.
 

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