Simple compressible system and flow system

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between simple compressible systems and flow systems in thermodynamics. A simple compressible system comprises internal, kinetic, and potential energies, expressed as e = u + ke + pe. In contrast, flow systems include an additional energy form known as flow energy, represented as P/ρ, leading to a total energy equation for flowing fluids: e_flowing = P/ρ + e. This differentiation is crucial for understanding energy dynamics in fluid mechanics, as outlined in "Fluid Mechanics Fundamentals" by Çengel and Cimbala.

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  • Understanding of thermodynamic principles, specifically the first law of thermodynamics.
  • Familiarity with fluid mechanics concepts, including energy forms in fluid systems.
  • Knowledge of enthalpy and its relation to pressure and internal energy.
  • Basic mathematical skills for manipulating energy equations.
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  • Study the derivation of the open system version of the first law of thermodynamics in "Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics" by Moran et al.
  • Explore the concept of control volumes in fluid dynamics.
  • Learn about the implications of flow energy in engineering applications.
  • Review "Introduction to Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics" by Smith and Van Ness for a deeper understanding of thermodynamic systems.
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I would like to ask about the difference between the simple compressible system and the flow systems.

"In the absence of such effects as magnetic, electric, and surface tension, a system is called a simple compressible system. The total energy of a simple compressible system consists of three parts: internal, kinetic, and potential energies. On a unit-mass basis, it is expressed as ##e=u+ke+pe##. The fluid entering or leaving a control volume possesses an additional form of energy—the flow energy ##\frac{P}{\rho}##. Then the total energy of a flowing fluid on a unit-mass basis becomes ## e_{flowing}=\frac{P}{\rho}+e=h+ke+pe=h+\frac{V^2}{2}+gz##(2–8)
where ##h=\frac{P}{\rho}+u## is the enthalpy, V is the velocity, and z is the elevation of the system relative to some external reference point.

Source: Fluid Mechanics Fundamentals by Çengel/Cimbala.

Are flowing systems different than simple compressible systems? Simple compressible systems have kinetic, potential and internal energies but flowing system have one more energy form, the flow energy. So something seems different to me.

Thank you.
 
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mech-eng said:
I would like to ask about the difference between the simple compressible system and the flow systems.

"In the absence of such effects as magnetic, electric, and surface tension, a system is called a simple compressible system. The total energy of a simple compressible system consists of three parts: internal, kinetic, and potential energies. On a unit-mass basis, it is expressed as ##e=u+ke+pe##. The fluid entering or leaving a control volume possesses an additional form of energy—the flow energy ##\frac{P}{\rho}##. Then the total energy of a flowing fluid on a unit-mass basis becomes ## e_{flowing}=\frac{P}{\rho}+e=h+ke+pe=h+\frac{V^2}{2}+gz##(2–8)
where ##h=\frac{P}{\rho}+u## is the enthalpy, V is the velocity, and z is the elevation of the system relative to some external reference point.

Source: Fluid Mechanics Fundamentals by Çengel/Cimbala.

Are flowing systems different than simple compressible systems? Simple compressible systems have kinetic, potential and internal energies but flowing system have one more energy form, the flow energy. So something seems different to me.

Thank you.
You need to look up the derivation of the open system (control volume) version of the first law of thermodynamics in a book that presents it better than this book. Try Moran et al, Fundaments of Engineering Thermodynamics or Smith and Van Ness, Introduction to Chemical Engineering Thermodynamics.
 
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