Simple Harmonic Motion oscillation amplitude

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving simple harmonic motion, specifically focusing on determining the oscillation amplitude of a mass-spring system given its angular frequency, spring constant, and kinetic energy at a specific time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and total energy in the context of oscillation, questioning how to find total energy without knowing the position at a specific time. They discuss using the speed in terms of amplitude and the implications of different trigonometric functions for the position equation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants providing insights into how to relate kinetic energy to amplitude and discussing the implications of different approaches. Some participants express appreciation for the guidance received, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's parameters, including the specified kinetic energy and the assumption of the mass being at equilibrium at t = 0. There is a focus on the relationships between variables without definitive conclusions being drawn.

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Homework Statement


A mass on a spring has an angular oscillation frequency of 2.56 rad/s. The spring constant is 27.2 N/m, and the system's kinetic energy is 4.16 J when t = 1.56 s. What is the oscillation amplitude? Assume that the mass is at its equilibrium position when t = 0.a. 63.1 cm
b. 47.7 cm
c. 73.4 cm
d. 55.3 cm
e. 84.0 cm

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The Attempt at a Solution


w^2=k/m => m= 27.2/6.5536 = 4.15kg mg= - kx => x=1.497

K=(1/2)mv^2 => v=1.416 m/s
x= Acos(2.56t + φ)
v(1.56) = 1.416 = -2.56Asin(3.994+φ)
 
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sugz said:
x= Acos(2.56t + φ)
I would use x=Asin( ... ) that way φ = 0 because the function sin(ct) starts out at zero (equilibrium) at t=0

Anyway that's not important.

At 1.56 seconds, a certain fraction of the total energy will be kinetic. This fraction is said to be equal to 4.16 joules, so you can then find the total energy. Then you can use that total energy to find the displacement amplitude, because they told you the spring constant.
 
But how would you propose I find the total energy because at that time, I don't know what position it is in.
 
You don't know the position, but can you solve for the speed at that time in terms of A? Then try to find the ratio of kinetic energy at that time to the kinetic energy when it is maximum. The mass and the amplitude should cancel.
 
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Now I get it, thank you so much for answering all of my questions! I really appreciate it!
 
good question, nice explanation, it was e right?

get v at time t in terms of A from the first derrivative, then solve for A with the Kinetic energy at time t given

v=Awcos(wt) or Awsin(wt+pi/2) if you prefer

K=.5mv^2
 
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