Simple inclined plane reaction question, I need a debate solved

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of the angle of an inclined surface on the reaction forces between two bodies acting on one another. It explores the relationship between the vertical component of the reaction force and the inclined angle, considering both theoretical and practical implications of the setup described.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a question regarding whether the vertical component of the reaction force remains constant while the angular reaction force increases with the incline angle, or if the reaction force itself is constant while its vertical component decreases as the angle increases.
  • Another participant challenges the initial diagram, stating it neglects the friction reaction force acting parallel to the incline.
  • A subsequent reply clarifies that friction is not a factor in their specific case, as the upper body is supported by the lower one without friction, and provides a more detailed diagram for clarity.
  • One participant concludes that, based on equilibrium considerations, the vertical component of the reaction force remains constant while the normal reaction force increases with the incline angle, suggesting that the first proposed solution is correct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the role of friction and the behavior of the reaction forces, with no consensus reached on the correct interpretation of the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the absence of friction and relies on specific geometric configurations that may not be universally applicable. The implications of the inclined angle on the reaction forces are not fully resolved.

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This discussion may be of interest to students and professionals dealing with mechanics, particularly those exploring inclined planes and reaction forces in engineering contexts.

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Homework Statement



Two bodies are acting on one another on an inclined surface. Assuming a constant vertical input force and the lower body being vertically fixed in place on the right hand side, what will the angle of the inclined surface affect. In essence, will the vertical component of the reaction force on the supporting body's inclined face be constant with the angular reaction force increasing as the inclined angle theta increases, or will the reaction force be constant and its vertical component decrease as the angle theta increases?

The Attempt at a Solution



The two proposed solutions are mentioned above. We've got a debate running in our office about which one is correct, and I would like a solution if possible.

Thanks!

Oh and this is my first post.
 

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Sorry, you both lose.

Your diagram shows a reaction force perpendicular to the incline. It neglects to show the friction reaction force 'nmj acts parallel to the incline.
 
That diagram is just a simplification. The actual product is a cylinder with a chamfer cut out of it on the outer edge, and the supported body is a plate with a hole in the centre with a corresponding angle chamfered out of it.

I've uploaded a new attachment which represents a section view of the part we're actually concerned with.

So friction in this case isn't important, as the upper body is supported by the lower one without friction.

I hope this diagram is more explanatory.
 

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TyronLab said:
That diagram is just a simplification. The actual product is a cylinder with a chamfer cut out of it on the outer edge, and the supported body is a plate with a hole in the centre with a corresponding angle chamfered out of it.

I've uploaded a new attachment which represents a section view of the part we're actually concerned with.

So friction in this case isn't important, as the upper body is supported by the lower one without friction.

I hope this diagram is more explanatory.
Oh OK, I get it. From equilibrium considerations in the vertical direction, the vertical component of the reaction force on the supporting body's inclined face will be constant, and the normal reaction force perpendicular to the incline will be increasing as the inclined angle theta increases. As the inclined angle decreases, the vertical component of the reaction force still says the same, but the normal reaction force then decreases.

So as I see it, whoever chose option 1 wins the debate.
 

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