Simple pulley system + kinetic friction, find tension

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To find the tension in the string of a simple pulley system with a 9.00 kg hanging weight and a 5.00 kg block on a table, the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.560. The normal force (N) for the block is calculated as 49 N, using N = m2g. The net force equations for both masses need to be established: for the hanging mass, m1g - T = m1a, and for the block, T - fk = m2a, where fk is the frictional force. It is essential to isolate each mass and apply Newton's second law to solve for the tension (T). Using these equations will yield the correct tension in the string.
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A 9.00 kg hanging weight is connected by a string over a light pulley to a 5.00 kg block that is sliding on a flat table (Fig. P5.8). If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.560, find the tension in the string.

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fk = µkN, F = ma, N2 = m2g, 5.00 kg mass = m2, 9.00 kg mass = m1

N = (5)(9.8) = 49

sigma f = ma
T + m2g - fk = (m1 + m2)a
T + (9)(9.8) - (µk)(N) = (14)a
T + (9)(9.8) - (.560)(49) = (14)a

I'm lost at this point. Thanks in advance.
 
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closer said:
A 9.00 kg hanging weight is connected by a string over a light pulley to a 5.00 kg block that is sliding on a flat table (Fig. P5.8). If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.560, find the tension in the string.

p5-09.gif


fk = µkN, F = ma, N2 = m2g, 5.00 kg mass = m2, 9.00 kg mass = m1

N = (5)(9.8) = 49

sigma f = ma
OK to here
T + m2g - fk = (m1 + m2)a
Where did this equation come from? Always use free body diagrams for each block to identify the forces and net forces acting on each block, before applying Newton's laws to each.
 
T = ma
T = (mass of the system)(acceleration of the system)
m2g matches the direction of the movement, therefore it is positive
fk opposes the movement, therefore it is negative.
T + m2g - fk = (m1 + m2)a
 
closer said:
T = ma
should be F_net =ma
T = (mass of the system)(acceleration of the system)
m2g matches the direction of the movement, therefore it is positive
fk opposes the movement, therefore it is negative.
T there is no T in this equation when you use this approach, but don't use it regardless[/color] + m2g - fk = (m1 + m2)a
It is best in problems of this type to isolate each mass separately, identify the forces acting on each, and use Newton 2 for each. This helps to understand what is going on. Ultimately, you are going to have to do this anyway at least on one mass to solve for T.
For mass m1, the hanging mass, you have the weight down, and the tension up, so it's m1g-T = m1a, and for the other mass, it's T- fk = m2a. Solve for T using these 2 equations with the 2 unknowns.
 
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